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Captain Scarlet

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SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« on: September 11, 2007, 10:41:00 am »
Heres the weights of the Skypole and new Superlites. For a fair test i have only included sizes of poles that both companies make.

Gardiners Superlites

SL-35.........6x1.7m...........1.3kg
SL-40.........7x1.7m...........1.62kg
SL-51.........9x1.7m...........2.26kg
SL-56.........10x1.7m.........2.58kg

Skypole

35ft   3.271kgs      
40ft   3.544kgs      
50ft   4.589kgs      
60ft   5.589kgs

The Skypole is much lighter than any other aluminium pole on the market ( tucker! ) but compared to the Gardiner Superlite 2 it a little heavier but with the possible advantage of lasting slightly longer. The Skypole does have a fibreglass bottom section though and this is slightly safer because it doesnt conduct electricity, gardiner will insulate your pole though for a fee. The Skypole will require more length space in your van though with an average section length of 2m. then with clamps on top that will be a little longer. The Gardiner will be made of 1.7m sections but without clamps. I hope this helps anybody who is thinking of buying either pole. Luke

ps. if anybody wants me to post a picture of the Skypole that Skypole sent me then please ask.
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

S.A.J

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 12:40:28 pm »
ps. if anybody wants me to post a picture of the Skypole that Skypole sent me then please ask.

Yes please mate  ;)

Captain Scarlet

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2007, 12:59:02 pm »
this is the mk1. not for resale, this picture was given as an idea, this isnt the final product. I just dont want to upset skypole.



I should think the final product will be very similar, Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

Count Phil

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2007, 04:18:51 pm »
I like the state of the art superlight brush. Alot of thought must have gone into that.

NWH

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2007, 06:00:33 pm »
Do you mean that brick of a vikan. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

macmac

Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2007, 06:30:30 pm »
These two poles can't be compared Luke ( your showing your inexperience again :o) they are two completely different tools dude!

tony

NWH

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2007, 06:36:07 pm »
I bet that new pole is quiet heavy,if the quoted weights are right it will be.A lot of these new poles that come out just look different but as far as weight goes they all seem to be much of the same,not including the modular poles of course.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 07:10:17 pm »
The Taper means that weight wise the fishing poles are unbeatable because your not having to carry round extra telescoping sections.
But at last we are now getting manufacturers to provide lighter equipement, keep demmanding.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2007, 08:56:19 pm »
Macmac, I was comparing them on the fact that both were designed specificaly for window cleaning and that both were designed by smaller companies. Oh and I'm not exactly comparing a squeegee to a wfp am I !!! I must be so inexperienced to compare two tools designed to carry out the same task!! If I am inexperienced then by defenition I am going to "show my inexperience" through my posts. Despite my inexperience I have still managed to show people two different products they could buy, their weights, some comparisons and a picture, I'm sure this is going to help somebody decide if they want either pole ( no hard feelings, I understand where your coming from macmac ) Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

macmac

Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2007, 08:58:12 pm »
Macmac, I was comparing them on the fact that both were designed specificaly for window cleaning and that both were designed by smaller companies. Oh and I'm not exactly comparing a squeegee to a wfp am I !!! I must be so inexperienced to compare two tools designed to carry out the same task!! ( no hard feelings, I understand where your coming from macmac ) Luke

Ok, you're bigger than me ;D

tony

Nathanael Jones

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2007, 10:51:03 pm »
Correct me if I'm wrong,.. but isn't the Skypole telescopic and the Superlite modular?
Telescopic is always heavier,.. but often quicker easier to use. A matter of personal preference really. But for that weight difference, I know what choice I'd make for the really high work!

Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2007, 11:00:32 pm »
Luke,

Im glad we have a bit of a discussion on the pole,

Yes as stated the pole is telescopic in my experience this is best but i agree maybe not for everyone!

Also the bottom section of the pole is not Glass Fibre but a completely different material as with the rest of the pole.

The Gooseneck is made from the highest quality Ali available in the world! (yes the world not the universe that we know of ;D) its a two part so all will become clear in a couple of weeks.

We are curently finishing the full technical data sheet for the poles and will forward out to those that require.

The clamps in the picture are slightly different to the finished item which are designed to remove strain on the connection between the pole surface and the clamping mechanism.

I hope this helps your input.
rgds, stuart

Nathanael Jones

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2007, 11:08:57 pm »
The weights are compared above,.. but if the prices were compared would the crowds be leaning in a different direction???? What are the prices lads???

Peter Fogwill

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2007, 11:09:56 pm »


The Gooseneck is made from the highest quality Ali available in the world! (yes the world not the universe that we know of ;D) its a two part so all will become clear in a couple of weeks.

rgds, stuart


Stuart, is the Goose-neck made from 7075 Aluminum?

Peter

Nathanael Jones

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2007, 11:13:23 pm »
Is that what your new pole is being made of Peter?

Peter Fogwill

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2007, 11:20:30 pm »
It will be made from Aluminum but not 7075 which is the best grade available in the world, or so I am told.  Problem is it costs 10 times more than the 6000 series, and a whopping 2 years lead time on the manufacturing side.

Peter

macmac

Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2007, 11:46:34 pm »
Macmac, I was comparing them on the fact that both were designed specificaly for window cleaning and that both were designed by smaller companies. Oh and I'm not exactly comparing a squeegee to a wfp am I !!! I must be so inexperienced to compare two tools designed to carry out the same task!! If I am inexperienced then by defenition I am going to "show my inexperience" through my posts. Despite my inexperience I have still managed to show people two different products they could buy, their weights, some comparisons and a picture, I'm sure this is going to help somebody decide if they want either pole ( no hard feelings, I understand where your coming from macmac ) Luke

It's like comparing a queegee & a microfibre, same end result but by a completely different method. you need to stop reading & get a few years wfp under you because with some of your statements/posts & lack of practical experience you're doing no one any good. it's like michael shumacker telling trevor macdonald how to read the news!
And no , I'm not trying to be rude, just trying to save some poor sole who may take your advise not knowing you've only been wfp 2 weeks!
tony

Captain Scarlet

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2007, 05:04:21 pm »
I can tell your a nice man Tony! :) Luke
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

macmac

Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2007, 05:30:30 pm »
I can tell your a nice man Tony! :) Luke

I'm a very nice man luke, that's why any information or advice i give is genuine, well thought out, accurate & backed up with plenty of experience.
Not just rushed together & theoretical with many aspects seemingly guessed at.
One read of your original post screems your lack of experience, i & many others can see this & are aware of your newness but many may not be & it's them who are at risk of getting confused & miss-led.
I have strong feelings about people being given bad/wrong advice or being miss-led & many of your posts or replies to posts do this.
I know your intentions are only good luke but due to your situation are in many cases inacurate to say the least. ;)

tony

NWH

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Re: SKY POLE VS SUPERLITE 2
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2007, 05:34:56 pm »
You Nasty man Mac.LOL. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D