[Trevor Knight]

Take a look at the guy on this ladder? Surely this company are not promoting this image?

http://www.clearviewwindowcleaners.co.uk/ladders.html

[East coast window cleaning Services]

Trevor thats funny

What a twat you cant put pics on your site with guys performing circus tricks

[poleman]

Just had a look at the picutre on there website and if that is one of there staff then it is a clear breach of Heath and safety - as you have to have 3 points of contact when using a ladder

Andy
PS if you look on there Health & Safety web page - bloke is using a 45ft pole to do ground windows! manual handling issues! 

[Easyclean Windows]

If this is how they use their ladders then they are in breech of both the health and safety requirements that are required by safe contractor approved and also if i remember when i was a member ...if your a member of the FWC then in their little rule book it says about how you have to use ladders safely ? or its a breech of their rules within your membership? 

This is also on their website

"Safety is our number one priority, we guarantee to find a cost effective solution to any cleaning task."

[Chris Cottrell]

"It is not always practical or necessary to use the Reach and Wash system on every contract, for example, inside buildings"

erm hello Isnt there such a product called the Pro 10 or summit 

[Easyclean Windows]

The issue isnt about wfp for inside the wahd states one hand on the ladder ? tie off at top/bottom? and defo not to be taking any of your feet of the rungs ??

[Ian Lancaster]

It's very difficult to see how the top of the ladder is located - it may be that the point is in such a place that it can't move sideways, but I doubt it.  In which case stepping out to one side like that will exert pressure on the ladder in the opposite direction, so if the ladder is just resting on that glazing bar, or ledge, it will slide sideways, and with no warning whatsoever.

The correct way to do it (and I don't care what the H&S say  ) is to set the ladder at an angle with the point into the corner formed by the two walls.  That way it can't move sideways.  The operative then cleans what he can reach with the hand nearest the glass.  Then re-position the ladder into the opposite corner and repeat, using the other hand.

One of the first things I was taught when I started was that any competent ladder man had to be ambidextrous.

Cheers,

Ian

[steve m]

is it just me or does healthand safety say that you can only usue a ladder to a max of 6 metres

[T.W.C]

Take a look at the guy on this ladder? Surely this company are not promoting this image?

http://www.clearviewwindowcleaners.co.uk/ladders.html

Take a look at the guy on this ladder? Surely this company are not promoting this image?

http://firstcleanservices.co.uk/5156.html

Trevor, despite the stand-off surely the way this chap is leaning over to clean the gutter isn't safe???

[Neil Williams]

What is this, slag the opposition off thread.
Whilst I don't agree with the techniques shown in the initial part of the topic what is happening in the next photo seems safe to me.

[Sir Squeaky]

Take a look at the guy on this ladder? Surely this company are not promoting this image?

http://www.clearviewwindowcleaners.co.uk/ladders.html

Take a look at the guy on this ladder? Surely this company are not promoting this image?

http://firstcleanservices.co.uk/5156.html

Trevor, despite the stand-off surely the way this chap is leaning over to clean the gutter isn't safe???

The original pic was dodgy, but that gutter one is totally alright!

God, I used to do it twice that height and without that ladder stand thing on the end.
I never once felt unsafe.

That's the safest way of doing it. :

[T.W.C]

Look at it again lads and pick the faults out, there are at least 3 faults that make that unsafe.

I am sure that pic on Trevors website has been lifted from another website and has also appeared on another WC forum at some point in the past for the very reason that the method was unsafe.

Tam

[groundhog]

The chap cleaning out the gutters appears to be doing a good safe job, who do you think you are slagging him off? He is probably a hard working man trying to earn a living for his family, so mind your own business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sir Squeaky]

Well said rounddog.

[JM123]

The gutter pic, while not maintaining the 3 point rule doesn't appear to be unsafe, both feet (i assume) are on the ladder and he is resting his body on the ladder - I know I've done a lot worse in the past.

[Trevor Knight]

  good morning, sleep well did we??? 

Ok, well if we are going down this road, for what reason I don't know, however, the window cleaner is definately a lot higher, appears to be very unsafe and working in what looked like a very dangerous manner!

Lets look at my picture, hmmm, a ladder stay defining a maximum balance point. The operative woking within an arm reach and not noticibly overstretching? Standing with both feet on the ladder.

We can all start picking faults if we really wanted, take a look at some of the houses in my other images, I think the rendering in the brickwork looks dodgy, should give the builder a call. But in reality all I am doing is highlighting what appears to be an obvious H&S issue that i am sure most of us on here would agree is dangerous.

I know which operative I feel is working in the safer way!!!

[D woods]

Hi Trevor
You run a successful business so you are going to attract a bit of envy. Our
industry seems to thrive on it.

[stuart@skypole]

too true

rgds, stu