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Timmy Boy

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Old rug kept in a barn...
« on: June 14, 2007, 04:26:53 pm »
Hi all
I have been asked to clean a rug (red - axminster style) which has been in a barn for a few years. I was a bit worried about cleaning it as the custy has gone on about it being an family posession passed down blah blah! She said that she had it cleaned before, the guy turns up and puts loads of foam on it, rubbed it in and left it soaking wet. Suffice to say she was not happy. (sounds like a guy with some wonderfoam from JML!) :o Does anyone know what method has been used here as i noticed a tinge of red on the white frills, so some dye bleed has occurred.
There is also some mould on it (from being in a barn).
I was going to use prespray gold & then fabric & fibre rinse, but do you guys think i can go a bit stronger?
Thanks in advance
Tim ;D

AquaMagic

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2007, 04:38:54 pm »
Wait for Dave Liahona to reply, sounds like it will need an immersion clean to get a proper result.

dene

Liahona

Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2007, 05:07:17 pm »
Timmy, give me a ring as there is far too much to go into with what you have going on.

Best, Dave.

07947 620 495


Stephen "Dusty" Roberts

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2007, 11:56:43 pm »
Let your client know what to expect ahead of time for results. I am betting this rug is smelly. Often these stinky old rugs will freshen up with cleaning only as long as there is no flood or pet damage.


First thing is to unload the rug of dry soils.

Run over the back of it with a hoover till the cows come home..Seriously this will make a massive diff to the end results.

This will "Vibrate" out the impacted in dry particulates.

Once this is done the dry soil removal then:

1. Bleed test
2. if ok,, then pre-spray with a wool safe product,,both sides.
3. Warm water extract the backside then the front
4. Detail the fringe and if cotton fringer use fringe bleach
5. Hang to dry
6. when dry fully inspect on hands and knees and use your nose. If it fails then repeat.


Message me direct if you have anymore questions.

At your service.

Stephen "Dusty" Roberts

Helping Ruggies around the planet to get more out of rugs!

Welcome to the message board for Rug care questions.
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trevor perry

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2007, 08:59:51 am »
if it is mouldy in places it may just fall to bits when cleaned depending on how coroded and damp it has been.
better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt

Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2007, 09:58:52 am »
Hey Dusty,

Is this the method used in the £250 book you sell on your site. Interested to know why its that price.

Liahona

Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2007, 12:55:08 pm »
I would be interested to know too.  Especially at almost 500 dollars.

Also be interesting to know too as what has been described for Timmy Boy to do will not clean the rug to any high standard.  It will clean it no doubt but it will still leave an awful lot of soils and inparticular the "old foam" from before.

Timmy, I am happy to clean it for you and you can watch me do it.  I did one for Mike recently and I am sure he will vouch that there isnt a better way for rugs to be cleaned.  With the rug you have hwe will NOT restore it to an acceptable level. 

Best, Dave.


Stephen "Dusty" Roberts

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2007, 02:09:08 pm »
Mike

That is a very simplified process for folks that have not handled thousands of rugs.

We encourage cleaners to avoid doing the full pit wash until you have some specialized class's and then on top of that a mentor to learn from.

The book is amazing. It is a tell all book of all the old rug secrets that the American Armenian community over here has kept to themselves for decades.

You are correct that the book is pricey, but all good reference books are. My wife is going to school for nursing right now and some of the books she has to have cost more then "The comprehensive guide"
The book is worth every dime and much much more. Everyday we care for rugs where the invoice along is for more then the books price.

To find out more on upcoming rug class's you can see them on the calender on our messageboard.


You can also click on here to find out more on the author and the special advanced rug school she is putting on in the fall!

http://www.dallasrugcleaner.com/rugschool.asp?EDI=28-63-113-43-167-227-199-164-86-210-9-92-123-130-199-42-33
Stephen "Dusty" Roberts

Helping Ruggies around the planet to get more out of rugs!

Welcome to the message board for Rug care questions.
www.therughub.com

UK  01-22-444-3593

Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2007, 03:20:49 pm »
Dave you should be in the authoring business, oh sweet residual income.  ;)

Immersion is the way to go for a proper clean.  Unfortunately my first effort was a case of a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and went pear shaped, since then Dave has kindly put me right.

You need to be able to identify what your dealing with and the subtle differences in the way you treat different types of rug or you can come a cropper.

For the 'typical' UK carpet cleaner when their custy says 'can you just run over this' or even the more affluent client who gets their oriental from John Lewis. There is still huge resistance to the price point that makes immersion cleaning a goer, although there is the arguement that 'educating' the client is part of your job to get the price and that immersion can be relatively rapid once you have the right setup and can batch jobs together.

Dusty. I commend you on your defence of your book pricing policy, slightly let down however by giving it away free on your course. Nice web site.
 


Stephen "Dusty" Roberts

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2007, 05:01:36 pm »
Mike

Thanks for the compliments. The coarse or the book is not mine however I am a graduate of this class and am a Certified Rug Master.

Simply amazing what you can learn from a 3rd generation ruggie!

Stephen "Dusty" Roberts

Helping Ruggies around the planet to get more out of rugs!

Welcome to the message board for Rug care questions.
www.therughub.com

UK  01-22-444-3593

PaulKing

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2007, 05:46:03 pm »
Hey Dusty,

Is this the method used in the £250 book you sell on your site. Interested to know why its that price.
i have this book and it cost me nothing at all ! and i realy is a great read. Just buy a rug badger and get going!
www.revitaclean.com  established 1968 in Newcastle Upon Tyne

*paul_moss

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2007, 09:25:58 pm »
Paul how much was the rug badger
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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PaulKing

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Re: Old rug kept in a barn...
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2007, 06:16:01 am »
speak to dusty, i can't recomend him enough
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