[dennis moriarty]

Hi all
has anyone used one of these machines? what are your thoughts on quality and performance?
also i'm thinking of this machine and a wonder wand, anyone here using this wand?
all feed back appreciated.
thanks.

[Charlie Payne]

hello mate, i use the cfr pro-500 p/h with wonder wand, fantastic machine & the wand makes cleaning so easy, carpets dry very quickly! my next machine is going to be the power flite p/h 500 as back up. hope this helps regards char

[Fred Gullan]

Hi . I have been using the perfect heat for over a year now and can Highly recomend it. The heat system  is great even if you cant use a second socket the water from the coils around each motor gets heated to a reasonable temp. All round good build quality & excellent spec. The wonderwand too is in a class of its own, many advantages over a normal wand. Dont need the rollers though. I use it with a prowler tm and the perfect heat , drying times are v good, better than a glided wand in my opinion.

Regards

Fred

[stuart_clark]

Charlie
I noticed from the other site Clean Talk that Nick Vousden white had commented that the CFR machine was high on PSI but low on vacume!! is this correct or just a bit bias to his own products ?

[dennis moriarty]

Thanks for replys.
Yes Stuart i was wondering about nicks comments. does anyone know the vacuum power of the powerflite, water lift?
i have had details through of the scorpion and that seems to be the most powerful thing around but really very costly, like wise the ninja although at £2300 with dual heating and no tools still cheaper than the scorpion.

[Fred Gullan]

Powreflite :220 cfm from two 3 stage vacs and 240 inches of lift . However build quality makes the scorpion look like a couple of packing crates stuck together. Had a look at one at the Cleaning show, not impressed.

Fred

[Derek]

Dennis

I have two Pro-station 400's together with the cfr handtool and wonderwand and get on with them very well

Just prior to buying my first 400 I did speak to Nick (before Solutions existed) as I knew that he extensively used CFR equipment...it was his comments on that day that went part way towards my decision to purchase

The Scorpion has since been taken on and developed by Nick and John... I did have a short play with it last Christmas time..  ...it too works well but in a different way to the CFR.....its whatever floats your boat really

[Charlie Payne]

stuart, nick promotes his own machines above the foresaid competion & rightly so, the scorpion is a superb machine. equally cfr machines are just as competative! the waterlift on the powerflite is 240in the cfr is 150in, but it really makes no odd's because the carpets dry very quickly with either machines. all the best char

[Charlie Payne]

also the vac's on the powerflite is dual 3 stage & the cfr is 2-2 stage, but this machine has continuous water flow, thus propelling water & solution through the carpet fibres & recovers it simultaneously at a high velocity. carpets dry 50% faster. regards char

[Fred Gullan]

To be fair the Scorpion can suck!! Very high airflow but the extra motor is at the  expense of an onboard heater. Personally I find heat invaluable no matter what product is being used and in this area the other machine comes out tops.

Fred

[stuart_clark]

Dereck ! can you use standard type chemicals ie chemspecs with the CFR machines or do you have to use micro splitters ?

[Derek]

Stuart

I tend to stick to either microsplitters or the cfr range of chemicals mainly. I don't use any powders these days because if they didn't completely dissolve they could block the filters

I do use other chemicals for specific jobs but I do so in a controlled way baring in mind what I have said above

[mark_roberts]

From a person who has owned several portables including a CFR do yourself a favour and test any machine in anger.  CFR has it pros and cons as does the scorpian.

Cost wise £3k is nothing for a machine which could make you £50k plus per year and last 3 plus years.

Mark

[stuart_clark]

I would like to know whether the powerflight has its vacume motors set in series or set in paralelle  ?

[Fred Gullan]

Series.

Regards

Fred.

[Derek]

Mark

You are so right.....It is always the operator that is going to get the best (or worst) out of his machine.

I have had several makes of machine over the years and the one I had at the time was always the best...in my opinion! 
But machine development moves on and so must we...as you say we expect to earn a decent living and hopefully make some serious money so why skimp on equipment?

If we all liked the same machine there would be an awful lot of unhappy suppliers and possibly one happy one