[qwert]

IF you do frames as an add on extra, hom much extra would you charge on a £10 account with 2 doors and 8 windows??

Is it 50% more??

Thanks

[Helen]

We include frames and sills in the original quoted price as technically they are part of the window. Plus this is a good seling point when you advertise either "frames included" or "no extra cost for frames"

[Paul Coleman]

IF you do frames as an add on extra, hom much extra would you charge on a £10 account with 2 doors and 8 windows??

Is it 50% more??

Thanks

When I worked trad, I would offer this as maybe a once or twice a year service.  I would charge double for it  i.e. in your example, the £10 job would become £20.
I always did the sills as part of the standard job.

[Bobs Window Cleaning]

You clean the glass you clean the frame. Only takes a quick wipe.

[qwert]

We include frames and sills in the original quoted price as technically they are part of the window. Plus this is a good seling point when you advertise either "frames included" or "no extra cost for frames"

I'm going to do that but I'm looking at price comparison and many wcs round here are trad and don't include the frames but are cheaper than the price I was going to charge.  I was trying to cost out the extra value of doing the frames for free..if you know what I mean.

By the way, do you also do ALL of doors inc UPVC as well??  I was going to offer this as standard as well as frames and cills.

[Helen]

As long as the doors are UPVC or in very good painted condition, we will price them in if the customer wants them done. Be carefull on new build sites where you don't have UPVC and they are painted, the finish of the paintwork may not be good and when you wipe down, you will take the paint with you, so not worth the hassle. You probably are not far out with 50% on top of the £10, but again each property and customer requirement can be different You do have a really good selling point if not many other Wc's include frames in your area....happy hunting

[qwert]

What do you do if the customer wants ther doors doing but they are not ion good painted condition???

Say no or warn them??

[Helen]

Up to you really, but would definately warn them and express your concerns and say that "if they wish" you will do the first clean on it to establish what can and can't be done and discuss with them after that again. By the way, when you see a very poor condition door, you will know when to say no! 

[Alex Wingrove]

do what i do

2 top windows = £3, if they are of normal size, and for 2 bottom windows = £2 you earn enough to wipe them over, and to be honest, if you have a snotter or sill cloth, i mop up, and wipe the frame when i wipe the edges, it take about 5secs more, and if you do a little bit each time, will save you more money over time, and earn you more than doing it as a one off.

[Richy L]

it all depends how dirty they are, if they are bad, i charge as much as 3 times as much , trad,

[M & C Window Cleaning]

I find as a gneral rule of thumb that including upvc frames in a traditional clean usually doubles up on the time it takes to do them if you say do them every other time. So I usually charge double the cost of the windows. I find most are more than happy with that. If it doesn't take double the time then I'll reduce price accordingly.

[Alex Wingrove]

double the time?

what do you do?

[M & C Window Cleaning]

I don't know how you guys/gals do it in less than that unless it's just the style of the windows on my round differs from yours. Many of them have a little recess that runs rounfd the edge of the openers and if you dont go down there they get really black. on many of them the recess is nearly an inch deep. To do some a one climb job becomes a two climb job because you can't reach safely right to the edge.

[Paul Coleman]

double the time?

what do you do?

Well if I were doing it as a once or twice a year job, I have sometimes needed to go over it with a slightly abrasive washing up pad and possibly a bit of JIF or similar.  Also wash under the sills - especially on upper windows where dirt below the sill shows up from the ground.  There is a reason why I have charged double for this type of work.  Also, I think it's a long standing habit not to price all-in on a regular clean that came from when I first started window cleaning.  Bear in mind that when I started (early 90s), many people were paying 14 or 15% for their mortgages and starting out was very difficult because everyone was watching the pennies.  At that time, to charge a bit lower and cut a few (less important) corners was not seen as a bad thing so long as people were getting a reasonable quality, affordable job.
At least by offering frames as an occasional extra, people had the choice whether to pay for it or not.  Of course then Britain pulled out of the ERM, mortgage costs plumetted overnight, but I couldn't start pricing higher on many jobs and including frames because neighbours talk and would have thought I was ripping the new customers off by charging more and doing a quick frame wipe.

[East coast window cleaning Services]

Frames get wiped as standard thats how i get so much work as others in the area dont and refuse to wipe frames.

[qwert]

When you clean the frames and cills do you just use the pure water without any cleaning agent and do you dry wipe the frames and cills??

If so how do you dry wipe the top frames and cills??   

[LSB]

if i do the frames , i charge the same again ,
ie , your £10 house i would charge another £10 for the frames !
frames shouldnt need doing every time , especially if you are doing the cills each time !

[Alex Wingrove]

if i do the frames , i charge the same again ,
ie , your £10 house i would charge another £10 for the frames !
frames shouldnt need doing every time , especially if you are doing the cills each time !

you hit the nail on the head, they dont need doing everytime, thats why it only takes a few second, to quickly wipe of "dust" its not even that really, and over a year, for the time i spend and earn, it might work out more that spending half as much time in wiping the sills,

plus it looks better for longer,

but to be honest, when i quote a job i say the price, if they are like, ohhhh ermmm, i then quickly add it includes the frames etc, even though i would have done them anyways

[M & C Window Cleaning]

I know some that refuse to clean frames even to the point of turning down a job if it includes the frames every time. That I don't understand. I've never refused to clean them. I've always seen it as extra work and given two prices one with and one without the frames. That way the custy can choose if they want to save money or not. I know there are some Jobs I wouldn't have if I charged one price and included the frames. Where I live when people ask for a quote for their windows they usually understand that to mean windows and sills, not the frames. There are a few exceptions however so I usually make sure we understand each other bfor I start. Leads to less complications later.

[Alex Wingrove]

i suppose its comes down to

"what ever works for you"