[carpetmas5]

when I start up dirty weter is coming out of my bower exhaust, this also is very bad after leaving over night. I also have same coming out of the bottom of the machine & all over the water tank. Any thoughts on this lads? Martin

[dave washbrook]

martin
i also have a boxxer and i have also come across this problem but i only noticed it when i hadent emptied the waste tank and it only happened for the first couple of times of starting up (after emptying the tank of course) also is the steel filter in the waste tank clean and the area around it clean. hope this is of some help but if you find another answer i would be greatfull if you could please let me know

cheers
dave

[carpetmas5]

The tank is empty I restarted it 3 or so times today dirty water still pours out of the bower exhaust.

[Len Gribble]

Although I haven’t got a Boxxer but presume the vacuum system is the same as my Prochem which has two filters one for the debris and the other to protect the blower, perhaps this one is getting to wet/need of cleaning, just a thought as you can see I’m not tec buff but I recon Dave Parry will know.

Len

[Glynn]

Remove the waste tank lid, unscrew the round vac/blower filter, on the shelf beneath this filter (if present) will be water lodged with filthy water, its this that is being blown out of the exhaust. To remedy drill 3 holes in the shelf each hole about 4mm and/or just clean the shelf regularly, what happens is, the small pre drilled hole in the shelf is too small, it gets blocked up with slurry. So enlarging it and drilling additional holes prevents the accumulation of dirty water from forming.
Hope this helps,

Regards

Glynn

[Len Gribble]

Sorry lads it should have been Glynn

Len

[Chris R]

Just wondered why you didnt contact Hydramaster about the Boxer problem? Or did you and they couldnt help? Thinking about having a Boxer, and so a bit concerned about any problems owners are having. I would be a bit fed up, to have a problem, after spending so much money
Chris

[adl]

I dont know if the boxer has the same type of set up as the chemspec494, but with our 494 if the waste tank debri filter is blocked then the waste water cannot drain through correctly, if this happens the problem that will occour is that the blower will suck in air from the nearest source, as the blower is designed to work in a cycle, i.e by drawing air through the bottom of the waste filter, if the filter is blocked up then it cannot draw air correctly through the bottom of the filter hence, having to draw air from above the waste filter, as the waste water has nowhere to fall then it will be sucked directly through the blower filter and clog it up, blow it out of the exhaust. You must keep the filter clean at all times to avoid this happening, this could cause serious damage to the blower as waste water carrying chemicals, especially any chemical carrying enzyme, pog or suchlike will strip the blowers of all grease oil that allow it to work freely, hence, a noisy, sticking blower that will not last a long time, again i dont know about the boxer, but the 494 has a tap at the front of the machine to allow you to pray WD40 into the blower suction that oils and strips the blower of water residue, as a rulewe always spray our at the end of each day or when we are on a big job that requires the use of chemicals as described above we do this process every 30 minutes as even chemical fumes hot water steam can be drawn into the blower again having the same effect.

regards Dave ADL

[dave washbrook]

chris
firstly i only had the problem which has been talked about once and i soon corrected it by cleaning the small hole which glynn mentioned.

i have had no other problems and i,m certain that if you did have a problem and you contacted hydramaster they would sort it out straight away john gotts will even give his mobile number in case of an emergency.

so if you are thinking of a tm then i would certainly reccommend giving hydramaster a call.

 good luck
dave

[lee_gundry]

i had a boxxer for 2 yrs.excellent unit.


Lee G

[Dave Parry]

Not been on line for a couple of days so only just seen this prob. Agree with glynn, the hole in the shelf is quite small, so although I've not had this problem, I can see that if blocked up you would get water coming out of the exhaust. I have had this happen once when the tank filled with foam. In normal use you should not get water onto this shelf, but if you let the tank fill up, without emptying and maybe drive to the next job it could get water onto it or it could be a foam problem. I put a bar of soap in the inlet bag filter, this normally keeps the foam down.

[lee_gundry]

i am sure martins waste tank does not have the shelf under the vac filter.


Lee G

[Len Gribble]

To save theses types of problems as Dave describes I use a lifeguard (inline filter sold by Chemspec) a lot quicker to clean than the debris filter.

Anyway hope your problem is resolved Martin.

Len

[adl]

Len
I have thought about using this type of filter, how much do they filter before hitting the waste tank, and i expect that they are a good tool to show the customer how much cr#p are in the carpets.

regards Dave ADL

[Len Gribble]

Dave

Put this way I only clean out my debris filter once a week on domestics not a lot in it if any, commercial I check more frequently, after the clean.

I would not go down the road of showing customers this even after you have given the carpets a good vacuum, show them the dirty water.

I my humble opinion a sound investment, a lot cheaper than a blower and don’t for get the down time to date I have removed /installed three blowers a nightmare in access them none of them mine I may add!

I only quoted that co as I don’t know any other, who supply them.

Len

[Glynn]

I have several of these in-line filters, they work and you empty them more or less every job. The problem though in hand is NOT to do with fluff, its to do with an accumalation of shixty water that eventualy blocks up the drain hole. Also I cant understand anyone using a TM that doesn't use a hydrofilter, for if they do any where near a normal amount of jobs day in day out , they must be forever cleaning out the recovery tank basket or sock on some models.

[dave washbrook]

glynn
please excuse me for being thick but what is a hydrofilter and where do you put it? it takes me ages to clean out the net in the waste tank so will one of these make it eaiser and quicker? where can i get them from and how much are they? would you be without one?

thanks for your help

dave

[adl]

Dave its a filter that sits in between 2 vacuum pipes, it filters out debris before they reach the waste tank, however we currently just have 3 spare waste baskets and change them as and when required, and the clean them all at the end of a day

regards Dave ADL

[Glynn]

Dave
Hydramaster sell them, they are as Dave555 says, they sit on the ground (1mtr) away from machine then your 2in vac hose goes directly on the opposite end, and no I wouldn't be without one.

Regards

Glynn

[dave washbrook]

thanks guys
thanks for the invaluable advice again i will be contacting hydramaster immediately.

cheers all
dave

 ps: martin i hope you sorted out your problem