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gordons

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polish and other foreign workers
« on: May 12, 2007, 11:06:24 pm »
what does everyone think of polish workers, has anyone had any experiences of them. Personally i have never had one work for me but when i used to work as a carer for bupa i worked with quite a few of them and really i thought they were great. They were always on time, never sick, worked hard , never complained, was always willing to do extra work and spent every spare minute learning the language. I would love to take a polish worker on to work for me.

brightnclean

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2007, 11:19:11 pm »
I,ve had a great Polish guy working for me part time for a few weeks. Like you say. Very hard working, courteous,dilligent on time evey time. I pay him a good rate. I wouldnt use anyone as cheap labour. He speaks very good English which he learned off his own back.  I am taking him on full time a week on Monday.

The customers love him and he is always looking for new work for me. I pay him a bonus for it. He actually calls me Boss  lol.

jeff1

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2007, 11:20:04 pm »
I don't know about the polish, but I do know a guy from the Philippines and he is a W/C working for another guy, he's one of the hardest and honest guy's I know.

Last week he Approached me on ways to start on his own, as the guy he works for won't work saturdays, and this guy wishes to buy his own house, I'm giving him all the help I can.

Trevor Knight

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2007, 09:52:31 am »
I really don't think it maters where you come from or what the colour of your skin is!

It's all down to attitude and the desire to do well for yourself?

I think in England we are presented with too many reasons to complain and to decide the grass is greener on the other side. Perhaps people from different backgrounds look at the same opportunity in a completely different light and are prepared to go that extra mile.

I would have no more reason to employ someone from Poland, Iceland, Japan, or anywhere else than I would a local lad from down the road, but the one thing I would look at is why do they want this job? What's in it for them? Where do they see themselves in 1-2-5 years time? Are they company driven or self driven?

I wonder if people are looking at the foreign workers for the right reasons. Is it because they will work hard or is it really because you see them as an opportunity to get a hard worker for a small wage?
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Trevor Knight

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2007, 10:12:03 am »
Hi Biscute,

Thanks for your reply. please re-write your posting with less foul language and abuse. I respect your views and you are more than welcome to air them, just not in that way. I will remove your posting before it is reported by our members.

regards,

Trevor
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gordons

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2007, 10:19:23 am »
Come on put his message on it is meant to be a country of free speech. I have nothing against foreigners but the thing i do hate is they can do and say what they want where as everyone tries to restrict what we say. Free speech to the people

Trevor Knight

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2007, 10:20:37 am »
You have missed the point Gordon,

It's not What was written but HOW it was written
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brett walker

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2007, 10:59:44 am »
Ive a very good friend on this site from Bulgaria who does not post because he feels awkward but he comes on here to learn about this business.  Him and his partner came to this country and started a cleaning business they both work very hard and the last year they have got into wfp i am proud to say that they are my friends.
Everyone has their own opinion on race, religon etc but you have to be vey careful what is said as it  can be taken the wrong way.

Brett

brightnclean

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2007, 11:07:56 am »
Come on put his message on it is meant to be a country of free speech. I have nothing against foreigners but the thing i do hate is they can do and say what they want where as everyone tries to restrict what we say. Free speech to the people

Perhaps you are not aware but the owners, moderators and even the ISP of forums like this one can be held liable in a court of law for it's content whether written by them or not.

Trevor. I am paying the guy I am taking on the same rate that I would pay anyone. I do believe that I will be getting very good value for money though. I take you point about the future and where someone might see themselves. I have already come to an agreement in writing which covers both of us.

East coast window cleaning Services

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2007, 11:36:12 am »
I don't know about the polish, but I do know a guy from the Philippines and he is a W/C working for another guy, he's one of the hardest and honest guy's I know.

Last week he Approached me on ways to start on his own, as the guy he works for won't work saturdays, and this guy wishes to buy his own house, I'm giving him all the help I can.

Remind urself about helping him when he starts nicking your customers whilst under cutting you. I wont employ Any of them . Yes i agree they are hard working but we should be looking after our own First who do want to work, like i said to many people when the polish learn to start qouting jobs and tendering for larger jobs we will all be f**ked.
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s.hughes

Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2007, 12:08:31 pm »
I think you'll find most of us use poles for work

jeff1

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2007, 01:27:35 pm »
I don't know about the polish, but I do know a guy from the Philippines and he is a W/C working for another guy, he's one of the hardest and honest guy's I know.

Last week he Approached me on ways to start on his own, as the guy he works for won't work saturdays, and this guy wishes to buy his own house, I'm giving him all the help I can.

Remind urself about helping him when he starts nicking your customers whilst under cutting you. I wont employ Any of them . Yes i agree they are hard working but we should be looking after our own First who do want to work, like i said to many people when the polish learn to start qouting jobs and tendering for larger jobs we will all be f**ked.
If I didn't know the guy I would remind myself, I'm not as stupid as I make out I am ;D
This guy Approached  me and asked for my help, and he will get it, this way I can help guide him to area's that are lacking a W/C.

He even brought it up in conversation that he did not want any of his employers customers and would like to build his own round from scratch.

He asked me how to price and all about advertising, also paying his tax's & N.I when he goes self employed.
This guy won't be a summer brigade or a dole dosser w/c. and I don't care what colour his skin is, if I can help anyone at any time I'm only to happy to.

TERRY AB

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2007, 02:30:07 pm »
I have employed 2 Polish guys (at different stages) , they were great for the first couple of months, then they started looking around for an easier way of earning money, one now works for ASDA the other is a Fork Lift driver.
I have in the past had quite a lot polish guys working with me whilst I was in Germany, there attitude seems to be to sell yourself well, work hard for a couple of months then find the best paid employment or easiest Job going.
Probably not much different from most of us, I just seem to think they use us as stepping stones, to get themselves established in the UK and move on work wise.
I tried not to let them know too much about pricing as they wont think twice of knicking your work and undercutting us. Think about it, in Poland they work for approx 100 quid a month. For most East Europeans this is financial paradise.
One polish lad I met, said "Why work full time ??, I have a 16 Hr. Job a week and get enough money from Benefits "Kids, Hpusing" why work longer".
Terry

Trevor Knight

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2007, 02:40:51 pm »
I have employed 2 Polish guys (at different stages) , they were great for the first couple of months, then they started looking around for an easier way of earning money, one now works for ASDA the other is a Fork Lift driver.
Terry


Hi Terry,

Does the fact that they can earn more money an hour working in Asda not make you think about what you were paying them?

No matter where you come from or what colour skin you have, if your working in this industry and a local (minimum wage) superstore offers you a better rate of pay then they would have to be STUPID to stay with you?

Just a thought?

Trev
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eddie d

Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2007, 03:41:29 pm »
foreign workers is a bit of a touchy subject .personally it doesnt bother me .but ive only lost 2 jobs to them at present .when ive lost 20 i wont be as complacent

Biscute

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2007, 04:11:28 pm »
why it is a strong pashionate point of view, its not racist it was patriotic and describing criminals as little idiots isnt much to grumble about.
Dont argue with a retard, they will just pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.

TERRY AB

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2007, 05:19:41 pm »
I have employed 2 Polish guys (at different stages) , they were great for the first couple of months, then they started looking around for an easier way of earning money, one now works for ASDA the other is a Fork Lift driver.
Terry


Hi Terry,

Does the fact that they can earn more money an hour working in Asda not make you think about what you were paying them?

No matter where you come from or what colour skin you have, if your working in this industry and a local (minimum wage) superstore offers you a better rate of pay then they would have to be STUPID to stay with you?

Just a thought?

Trev
Hi Trev,

You did not get what I was saying. He started at ASDA as a Cleaning Manager, earning more than most WCs, I paid him well over the Basic Wage.
Due to the fact that we cleaned ASDA Stores for quite a long time, he got to know
and meet some ot the Polish cleaning staff and another Polish Manager.
Thanks for the Thought though.
Terry

Trevor Knight

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2007, 06:55:22 am »
Hi Terry,

I read your posting and it said one NOW works at Asda, hence my reply.

Sorry, Trev
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Trevor Knight

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Re: polish and other foreign workers
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2007, 06:57:09 am »
why it is a strong pashionate point of view, its not racist it was patriotic and describing criminals as little idiots isnt much to grumble about.

Your point of view is fine if thats your opinion, thats not my point, it was the language and references you used to emphasise your point that was not acceptable!

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