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ady

SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« on: May 02, 2007, 11:17:31 pm »
EVENING ALL ,COULD SOMEONE EXPLAIN THE SATURATION RUG CLEANING METHOD
REGARDS ADY  ??? :'( :-\

Derek

Re: SATUATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2007, 07:40:04 am »
You will see this method used in a plant cleaning operator's premises....not for the customers house that's for sure


*paul_moss

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Re: SATUATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 03:01:27 pm »
Speak to Dave Leona, he is the expert on this type of cleaning.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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carpetguy

Re: SATUATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 08:14:22 pm »
If you live near Sheffield call on Franklin's they have been using traditional methods for over a century and can show you how it's done...............not for the average c/c

Derek

Re: SATUATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 08:16:56 pm »
I was at Franklins the other week...I did try to post a picture but unfortunately I don't think the site will accomadate


*paul_moss

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Re: SATUATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 08:18:24 pm »
Franklyns now also have a site in Liverpol.
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Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2007, 09:34:40 pm »
franklins have been in Liverpool for yonks! I think from the 1960's when they purchased a firm call North of England cleaning they also have a site in Manchster.

Shaun

ady

Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2007, 09:35:04 pm »
thanks for your help ,ive seen pictures of people in wellies in what looks like paddling pools,but thats about it
regards ady :-\

PaulKing

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Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2007, 08:22:58 am »
thanks for your help ,ive seen pictures of people in wellies in what looks like paddling pools,but thats about it
regards ady :-\

add a brush and hosepipe and you just about have it covered, it's just about the simplest way to clean you can get, and is very effective on pee stains, however the set up cost to do it right, hangers and the blocking the rug to keep it square, mean it's best to send them to Franklins for treatment.
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Phillip Mold

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Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2007, 09:03:03 am »
And to think I used to clean the car mats in the bath, leaving them for a good soaking with warm water and fairy liquid, rolling them up to agitate, rinsing then leaving in the sun on the drive to dry out.  ;D ;D ;D
Doing the best job in the world as well as I can

Cleaning Resource

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Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2007, 04:29:38 pm »
I pressure washed one once on my drive it came up a treat,

I always pick up any old rugs I come across just to try different ways of cleaning them, I`ve got a couple now if anyone wants to recommend things to try ;D

Ian Gourlay

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Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2007, 05:20:21 pm »
Its the drying that causes the problem

But if you do have room in the garage you could solve it.

Dereck you should be able to post pictures several people do it regularly.

Or will they be in NCCA mag.? ;D ;D

Liahona

Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2007, 09:36:24 pm »
Ian, you are quite correct in that drying can be a problem.  John Kelly has mentioned this on many occasions too.

Having said that, as long as most removable moisture has been removed from the textile then turn it upside down, lay it on the floor and stick 4 or as many air movers as you have on it.  Do not use that air mover that drys using downdraft.  It is a very good machine but not suitable for an area rug.  Actually in my opinion not suitable for drying any textile.  Brilliant for hard floors and general air movement but should be illegal for textile drying and inparticular area rugs.

Of course up in the air with lots of air movement and if poss heat is way better but if not all of us, most of us have a floor and air movers.

Best, Dave.

carpetguy

Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2007, 10:10:27 pm »
Sometimes it's better to walk..........although many people are offering advice and encouragement, you need more than that. to get a viable return. from the average rug clean, never mind the time consuming method discussed here.

You will all have the regular experience of quoting for a job and the client suddenly remembers about a little rug..............sure as hell, is hot, you answer, "no problem" and add on a lower price than you should...............well I do and so do some of you.........then you always take longer than you should and curse yourself, again !

Per square foot, rugs take a lot more time and effort than fitted carpets and you either have to charge, in most cases, half the replacement cost, or treat it like a "supermarket loss leader"

Expensive rugs..................completely different story.

ady

Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2007, 10:19:27 pm »
evening dave  in your post you mentioned putting the rug upside down why is this , sorry to ask but am a newbie ???

Liahona

Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2007, 10:50:08 pm »
ady, no need to be sorry. 

Without going into too much.......................

Quite often problems occur during the drying process.

This usually is, as for something to dry it has to evaporate.  To evaporate the moisture rises upwards and leaves the top of the textile last.  At this point with the wicking that may occur you can get yellowing or browning and in some cases the colour will also wick.  If it hasnt been cleaned properly and there is still soil in the textile this can wick to the tip of the fibre too.

If the textile is upside down then at least if this happens it will be in the base of the textile and any colour or wicking or yellowing etcetera will at least not be seen from the top, the face fibres.

I know this isnt written very well but I think or hope you get my point.

In most cases none of the above will happen but in case it does upside down drying will or could get you out of potential problems.

Also while drying which is usually or at least often done outside you can have ambient problems.  Last thing you want having just cleaned an area rug is a bird to bomb it on its way flying by.  If the rug is upside down then it can be spot cleaned off or maybe even just brushed off.  If it was the face fibre you would have to clean it again.  That is if you wanted to return the area rug properly cleaned.

Last thing, if you dry it the right way up in the sun light or even a dull day you run the risk of sun fading the textile.  This can help for some rugs but not in all cases, so again why take the risk.......

Hope this helps, best, Dave.

ady

Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 07:20:29 pm »
Evening Dave thankyou message recieved and understood,
I have a lockup unit and are looking to do a collect clean and return service ,im fine with the cleaning it was just the drying that i couldnt decide on ,thought of a drying room but to much involved just been using my air mover seems to do the job regards ady 8) :)


John Kelly

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Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2007, 07:44:44 pm »
Beware of using air movement alone. Once the air becomes saturated, or if the relative humidity is already high no drying will take place. You need to add dehumidification to succeed.

calmore

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Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2007, 10:48:59 pm »
How about a cheap B&Q shed with some fan heaters installed?
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Liahona

Re: SATURATION RUG CLEANING?????
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2007, 11:04:25 pm »
calmore, nothing at all.  Just add a couple of air movers to the fan heaters and open the windows and there you go. 

Make sure the windows and or door is open or else you will end up with the scenario John has suggested and have water saturated air offering no drying ability.  Best, Dave.