[Ryan Phillips]

Hi all wondered if anyone could help have been asked to provide a risk assesment and method statement for cleaning a building with wfp have never been asked for this before does anyone have a sample they could email to me at r.phillips79@ntlworld.com many thanks in advance

[Robert Parry]

Ryan,

With the greatest of respect, Risk Assessments have been a legal requirement for a number of years now, I dont understand why you have failed to comply. I would have thought that one of your greatest selling points to potential customers would be the ability to carry out high risk work safely!

Part of the legislation requires that the person writing the R/Assessment must be competent to do so, so just recieving one from the forum would not actually be enough, although to be fair, if you are a one man band, so to speak, you would probably get away with it. Different matter altogether if you are an employer!

A Risk Assessment must be completed before starting work, and each job requires a unique assessment, although again, most would be the same, with a few minor modifications between different sites.

As it stands, ie. working without any Risk Assessment, you are in actual fact breaking the law, and at the present time, there would be a good chance of your insurance company refusing to pay out should you need to claim, you are also putting any clients that you already have at risk, because the law states that they must take all reasonable care to ensure that any contractor, including the self employed, are competent to do the job that they are contracted to do, that they have a H & S Policy, and not just a policy statement, Risk Assessments and the required insurance.

I would suggest that you rectify this situation asap, this is written not to insult or belittle, but to inform, best of luck, regards,

Rob

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Risk assessments aren't hard.  Just highlight a risk involved with the job ie trip hazard, water turning into ice, water by entrance ways and then after each point a statment of what you will do about the risk.

ie

Risk                             Action to rectify

Trailing hoses cause a trip Hazard   Trip Hazard signs in place. Blah blah blah.

Include your name.

[clean team]

Ryan,

With the greatest of respect, Risk Assessments have been a legal requirement for a number of years now, I dont understand why you have failed to comply. I would have thought that one of your greatest selling points to potential customers would be the ability to carry out high risk work safely!

Part of the legislation requires that the person writing the R/Assessment must be competent to do so, so just recieving one from the forum would not actually be enough, although to be fair, if you are a one man band, so to speak, you would probably get away with it. Different matter altogether if you are an employer!

A Risk Assessment must be completed before starting work, and each job requires a unique assessment, although again, most would be the same, with a few minor modifications between different sites.

As it stands, ie. working without any Risk Assessment, you are in actual fact breaking the law, and at the present time, there would be a good chance of your insurance company refusing to pay out should you need to claim, you are also putting any clients that you already have at risk, because the law states that they must take all reasonable care to ensure that any contractor, including the self employed, are competent to do the job that they are contracted to do, that they have a H & S Policy, and not just a policy statement, Risk Assessments and the required insurance.

I would suggest that you rectify this situation asap, this is written not to insult or belittle, but to inform, best of luck, regards,

Rob


why dont you help him then by sending him a copy of yours if you know so much about it.    help the guy!!!!

[Tosh]

Clean Team,

I agree.

Why did Robert Parry spend so much time hinting how big his operation is, rather than providing some firm advice?

Was it to show he employs people?  Was it to state how clever he is?

Personally, I've only ever had to provide a risk and method statement once for a Hilton Hotel (and for a couple of quotes) and it would've never prevented us from having an accident. 

Just because you put something down on paper doesn't mean you abide by what you've wrote.  It's more of a case of the contractor covering their own arses.

Just good old common-sense minimises the risk of an accident!

PS. 

Ryan, my risk and method statement is well-out-of-date, so I can't help, but hopefully someone will e-mail you one of theirs and you can numptyize it to suit your requirements.

[Majestic]

I wont waste your time telling you what you should do . I have sent you a copy of the one I use, hope it helps.

[telboy]

Well done John

and good on you Tosh

[need a cleaner]

I wont waste your time telling you what you should do . I have sent you a copy of the one I use, hope it helps.

I John, we are looking to start window cleaning during the next month can you send us a copy aswell please, thank you.

[Majestic]

Done

[Stevie G]

hi john when you get time can i have a copy.

      claret.and.blue@hotmail.co.uk

regards lisa.

[Karl Wheeler]

Hi John
Please could i have a copy. info@cleantechcleaning.co.uk
and thank you
Regards
Karl

[Matthew Speakman]

could i be a real pain in the bum and ask for a copy please

e.c.s.1@btinternet.com

Thanks

[clean team]

this is the sort of thing thats makes this forum a better place to better your buisness.what we need is more people wanting to help you rather than putting you down. exchanging info with each other can only make us all better .lets keep it up

[tacky]

hi john could u send me one  retallieR@aol.com   many thanks

[Stevie G]

got it thanks john.

[Robert Parry]

I am dissapointed, but alas, not surprised by some of the comments, regarding this thread.

As for not helping, I have supplied two documents to other members of this forum, which have been downloaded over 600 times, and probably a lot more if people could find them.

A lot of people seem to think that by downloading a Health & Safety policy statement, Method Statement and Risk Assessment, that they have complied with the law, and have done enough to protect themselves, their staff, their clients and their own companies from litigation. Does anyone really believe that their insurance companies are not aware of this situation? Sooner or later, the insurers, will refuse to pay claims, unless ALL boxes have been ticked, we all complain about the rising cost of insurance, why is this? Could it be possible that people are doing work that they have not been trained to do? Could it be that they are not declaring the full extent of their operations to their insurance company?

For those who for example, use a car for their work, are you covered by a private policy or are you covered by a business policy?

Clever? ME?  NO!!!
If I was, I wouldnt still be trying to help the industry to become more professional.

Best place for Health & Safety advice, your local HSE office!!
An independent consultant, when you start taking on large numbers of staff.
Regards,

Rob

[Majestic]

Tacky
It wont let me send the email to you it keeps returning it

[clean team]

this is the sort of thing thats makes this forum a better place to better your buisness.what we need is more people wanting to help you rather than putting you down. exchanging info with each other can only make us all better .lets keep it up

cleanteam are you referring to me, I have helped and got helped on this forum I was just having a laugh at john as these things usually explode email after email you are better just loading into the documents section then everyone can download
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i have just reread my comments and realised it could read differentley to how it was ment.i was just bigging up the good communication and willingness to help each other on this forum.shareing info with each other can only make it better

[Matthew Speakman]

recieved e-mail many thanks

[tacky]

hi john many apologies my e mail is retalliR@aol.com   i ll have to start wearing my hat  sun is starting to fry my brain  many thanks