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wfp spotting
« on: April 02, 2007, 09:23:44 pm »
cleaned today and keep getting spots useing a freedom trolley and some secondhand containers for my water could the containers be comtaminated and where should i start on top frame or glass any help appreciated cheers andy

marc

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Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2007, 10:01:58 pm »
it could be residue left over from fairy liquid the top rubber can be a bugger lots and lots of rinsing on the top of the rubber  hope this helps rinse and rinse some more marc

EasyClean

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Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2007, 10:49:07 pm »
It could simply be that you are not rinsing thoroughly.
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Sir Squeaky

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Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 11:25:38 pm »
I don't know.

I used best part of 200 litres doing 5 small houses today, and it was a monsoon.
Still left some spots though. :(

Ian_Giles

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Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2007, 06:05:30 am »
As a counterpoint to those newbies who find they are leaving spots; I did a first time clean on a house today..sorry...yesterday ;)

This was a march out clean (local army camp) the house had all UPVC windows, they were completely minging too, also, the front window frames had all started to oxidise and the water was coming off milky.

I do several of these houses on regular cleans, they usually take between 10 and 15 minutes to do, this one took 25 minutes.

The windows on the shady side of the house I wasn't too worried about, but did have general concerns because they were so filthy.
The sunny side windows I was certainly concerned about, again, in part because they were so filthy and also because of the oxidised frames.

Shortly after finishing this house I met up with Squeaky and helped him cure his airlock problem, while chatting my wife rang me and said that she'd had a phone call from the house I'd just done to say that I'd left a couple of pole section behind :-\ (I'm a shocker for this kind of thing  :-[)

On picking up the poles I checked the work over....I couldn't fault it, back and front were fine.
Maybe if I walked around the inside of the house and checked every window really closely I might have found spots here and there, but on general inspection I could find nothing wrong.


Now the point I'm making is that experience counts for SOOOOOO much!!!

This wasn't just one of my existing houses that I cleaned all the time and therefore little more than a repeat clean, this was a stinker, very dirty, full of spiders nests and half the window frames were oxidised.

Yet on a first time clean I got them spot on (no pun intended).

I'm not trying to say that every house and every window you do will be perfect even with years of experience, but as you gain experience, even on first time cleans, the incidence of spotting will be greatly reduced.

So don't lose heart just because you cannot seem to get it right...stick at it and you will get there!!

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

pylofm

Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2007, 07:49:50 am »
I have not been in this game long but a few weeks ago I tried to speed up and use a little less water on a couple of jobs and low and behold...ring backs re: spots....as with all things in life the speed will come but just slow it down and have a 'healthy' flow rate for the rinsing.

Cheers
Dave.

rhino

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Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2007, 09:13:29 am »
Can someone please explain what's meant by 'Oxidise' on UPVC frames?
I thought Oxidise meant rust!!

Cheers

Ian_Giles

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Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2007, 09:32:29 am »
Can someone please explain what's meant by 'Oxidise' on UPVC frames?
I thought Oxidise meant rust!!

Cheers
Oxidisation on metal IS rust ;)

But in general, oxidisation is caused as a reaction between sunlight, air and water.
UV rays break down the surfaces of things constantly exposed to it.
Rubber will perish, get brittle, the surface will 'oxidise' and become powdery, wipe around a perished and oxidised black seal on a window and you will know about it!! :o
 curtains fade, paintwork will fade, become dull and the surface will break down and become powdery...oxidisation.
The same happens with the surface glaze on UPVC windows, the sunlight breaks it down over time, it then oxidises and becomes powdery, causing us poor saps problems :-\


Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2007, 01:27:32 pm »
I don't know.

I used best part of 200 litres doing 5 small houses today, and it was a monsoon.
Still left some spots though. :(

It's probably because you are using too much water and it is splashing the stonework.

Try turning the flow down.

rhino

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Re: wfp spotting
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2007, 01:44:37 pm »
Cheers Ian.