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Billy H

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Buying Domestic work
« on: March 10, 2007, 12:30:33 pm »
Hi,just found this forum.Some of the advice is first-class.

I have a question to ask.
I have been offered the chance to buy £2,000 worth of domestic work  what would you guys (and gals) say would be a fair purchase price?

Thanks
 

Biscute

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2007, 01:37:17 pm »
Give me some details on the round il let you know. First what type of work is it? comershial domestik lead or squeegy. What is the price of each house and is it reasonable for the area that you are doing it, and also will he be sghowing you each customer and taking you around the round.
Dont argue with a retard, they will just pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.

matt

Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2007, 03:15:47 pm »
i have brought alot of my work in, from a guy who was retiring and a guy who was moving back to OZ

i paid 1 X the amount it was, thus 2000 quid in your case

i also worked the round with the seller, thus i earned half the money ( 1000 ) and only had to pay him 1000

it worked well and we were all happy, afterall you are only buying goodwill

I have heard people pay 2 X or 3X the amount for domestic work ( more for commercail )

my opinion on the subject is, the guy wants to sell, you want to buy, he wants as much as he can, you want to pay as little as you can, get together and try to come up with a figure ( not forgetting he wants to sell )

Billy H

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2007, 10:49:14 pm »
Give me some details on the round il let you know. First what type of work is it? comershial domestik lead or squeegy. What is the price of each house and is it reasonable for the area that you are doing it, and also will he be sghowing you each customer and taking you around the round.
All WFP domestic  mate but he is quoting ridiculous figures.
Average house is £4-5.Within 15 mile radius.
He is looking for £35,000  + just for the goodwill.

Jason Atwell

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2007, 10:51:58 pm »
FORGET IT!
Fleetwood Window Cleaning Services

steve k

Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2007, 05:36:00 am »
he`s winding you up and also tryin to rip you off... BIG TME :P :P >:(

At the most £6000...X 3 the monthly turnover.
Now you know he is a con merchant...I wouldn`t deal with him...just start dropping leaflets where you want to work and you will soon have work coming in.
Those prices need doubling...wherever you live...!!!
DONT start out with prices that low...aim high and take more time on the clean.

Tell this clown where to go...£35K... :o :o :o

Londoner

Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2007, 08:19:51 am »
There are some other issues you need to be aware of if you are planning to buy a round, any round.

Firstly, establish how long the guy has been working the round. In other words is it a genuine round or just a list of names and addresses that has been cobbled togeather by some fly boy with the intention of selling it on at some vast profit.

I have heard of people buying a round only to find that when they start calling at the houses the people know nothing about a window cleaner except that some bloke gave them a quote on the doorstep a few months back.

Secondly, some rounds are offered for sale although they haven't been worked for some time and a lot of the customers may have found someone else.

The third thing is that new boys who take over rounds very rarely seem to last. I don't know why but its been my experience over many years.

My advise to you is get your coat on and go out canvassing. Meet the people, look at the access, do it yourself. There is more to a round than just a list of names and if you  build up your own round you will get it how you want it and you will make a go of it. And you will save yourself a lot of money.   

Biscute

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2007, 08:24:14 am »
Erm i tink you must have a miss type by that m8 35k is just stupid. Even if you done the playboy mantion i wouldnt pay that. the average i would say is anythink from 2 to 4 times the value of the work. so if he meens 3.500 for 2000 pounds of work thats not a bad price, but make sure that you go around and see the round with him.
Dont argue with a retard, they will just pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.

russ_clark

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2007, 08:42:43 am »
sounds to me as if he is waiting for a mug to come along
big time
run a mile at a price like that

gary evans

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2007, 08:43:53 am »
Hi Billy

Be careful when buying existing rounds, you need to look at the work, the person selling & the investment to turnover closely.

It does work, i,ve brought 4 over the years.

1, £800.00 per month cost £3000.00 in 1991. A lot of money but all work on one new estate. Work surrounding esate picked up also. Within 2 years that round exceeded £2500.00 per month. So good investment.

2, £500.00 per month paid £250.00 increased to £1000 then sold on for £1000.00 cheap.

3, £600.00 per month paid £500.00 increased turn over to £3000.00 per month
got offered other work & should of sold but let slip. lost nothing though.

4, 8 x houses value £200+ per month, picked up 4 more value £185.00 per month, + possible additional contract. Paid £300.00.

It does work, i have taken on work without proper handover but paid low, but withheld 50%, till after first clean. First round was proper & gave me a base to expand.

I would approach other w/c,s & ask if they have spare outside there normal work area. I once advertised in local press wanting rounds. I did have a call once asking me to pay £30,000.00 for one in wolverhampton, keep clear.

Its a case of looking & take your time.

I recently offered commercial @ 3 x its value, plus van for 6k, includeing s twin wfp system. Total package £10,000.00 giving a return of £1600 to £1800 per month, at £300.00 + per day. I,ve since been told it was advertised to cheap by £15000.00 to £20,000.00 but i wouldnt pay that. It didn,t sell either, but i did have a couple of calls. I am waiting on other work at minute so may try again later.

Hope this helps.

Its very easy to build up work,  but buy as & when you need turn-over etc.

Gary

Llaaww

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2007, 09:35:17 am »
I have been wondering about buying and selling recently,
maybe you can help.
if I had a small office building that paid £50 monthly to be cleaned, and was bomb proof reliable every month, how much might it sell for?
if it is dirty it is fair game

Biscute

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2007, 09:40:53 am »
lawrence not selling just the one job unless you are abserlotly swamped. I think unless you find a mugins you will only get a 100 for it.
Dont argue with a retard, they will just pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.

SHINING EXAMPLE

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2007, 10:03:51 am »
When deciding a fair price to pay for any given round, surely. the key factor must be WHAT IS THE DAILY EARNING POWER FOR ONE PERSON ON THE ROUND?
E.g £100? £200? £300?
Prices on paper mean nothing unless the individual properties are taken into consideration.
For example, £2000 worth of reliable work is worthless if it takes nearly 2 months to complete.
(imo)
Gary.

Biscute

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2007, 10:14:50 am »
Good point
Dont argue with a retard, they will just pull you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Billy H

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2007, 04:42:45 pm »
When deciding a fair price to pay for any given round, surely. the key factor must be WHAT IS THE DAILY EARNING POWER FOR ONE PERSON ON THE ROUND?
E.g £100? £200? £300?
Prices on paper mean nothing unless the individual properties are taken into consideration.
For example, £2000 worth of reliable work is worthless if it takes nearly 2 months to complete.
(imo)
Gary.

Good point Gary.
£100 per day for one person is achievable within a 7 hour shift on this run.
I know the guys that are working it.

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2007, 05:55:36 pm »
Lawrence

If ou want to sell anything I am your man.

Dave

Llaaww

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2007, 08:02:36 pm »
Lawrence

If ou want to sell anything I am your man.

Dave
thanks dave will talk about that when I see you. I quite like the canvassing, though having had a look about, not everybody does.
if it is dirty it is fair game

martindrz400

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2007, 09:53:05 pm »
never buy work get up off your arse and canvas it will be the best thing in the long run

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2007, 10:01:11 pm »
I  beg to differ , i started out with bought work, now I have got the biggest rounds in my area

Dave

Central Window Cleaners

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Re: Buying Domestic work
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2007, 09:43:52 am »
I agree with Dave I bought my first round and build from there I now have over 1300 customers.