[vivaro 013]

had a problem on Thursday were fuse had melted on split relay , change fuse all ok battery started charging again, after 5 hrs today battery went flat , split relay had burnt out  , no charge going to battery  what could be the cause of split relay been burnt out after only 6 months use , any help would be apperiated on finding a solutions  or was it just faulting split relay

[jeff1]

I don't know what the current rating of your relay is, but if your battery is asking for more current than your relay can supply, then it will burn out eventually.

It could be an indication of a faulty battery, now demanding more and more current, get your battery checked out.

[vivaro 013]

the relay what was used is called chargecom  e11 and it was a new battery rated at 115 amps does that help you jeff

[jeff1]

the relay what was used is called chargecom  e11 and it was a new battery rated at 115 amps does that help you jeff

Not really, need to know the current rating of the relay, if you have a link to a web for this relay, I could have a look.

[vivaro 013]

ive tried looking for web site no joy, name on cover is charge com e11 020867
which was bought from a motor mania shop , i intend going to shop in the morning to see if i can sought this problem out , but if you can help
tyou

[jeff1]

Sorry Vivaro, with out the spec of the relay, I can't work out its ratings. ask them in the shop to write down the specs for you.

Mind you if there anything like the guy's in the Maplins shop by me, they won't have a clue. :

[vivaro 013]

thanks jeff for your help so far , i will have info for you early tomorrow jeff , fuse holder which came with kit split relay kit looks a heavy duty one , back of split relay has melted soldier in place 

[jeff1]

thanks jeff for your help so far , i will have info for you early tomorrow jeff , fuse holder which came with kit split relay kit looks a heavy duty one , back of split relay has melted soldier in place 

The only thing I can say to you at the moment, is that you have 115 amp battery, if it runs down to much, when it starts to charge up again, it will demand a high current for a short period, if the relay is not man enough for this high demand then it will blow fuses, this should have happened to yours, you didn't replace it with a higher rated one did you?
If you did then this could be the problem.

[vivaro 013]

no jeff, i  replace it with same rated fuse as supplied 15 amps

[vivaro 013]

found relay on maypole towing and touring website

[jeff1]

found relay on maypole towing and touring website

Give me the link to the relay

[vivaro 013]

hello jeff , bought same relay today from motor mania , connected it up , all ok at the monument , info what came with split relay in very vague all its say is
12v dual charging caravan relay , charges refrigerator and auxiliary battery
charecom combination relay , refrigerator and battery charger , fitting instructions
nothing telling you what amp are , not a great lot of help jeff , web site is
maypole towing & touring

[jeff1]

What a c**p website for information :
I had a good look and there is no specifications on any of there products?.
The only information I can give you with the lack of specs are as follows.

If your original relay had a 15amp fuse then it should be capable of charging upto a 150Ah battery, yours is 115Ah so within the limits of the relay.

The only advice I can give you is the next time you run your van, check to see if any of the cables are getting hot (some should get warm) but not so hot it feels like the outer sleeve is soft, if the later is the case, then you still have a problem, I would suggest you try another battery and then check your cables again.

If you continue to get problems after trying another battery, then get your alternator checked by a pro.

If next time your fuse blows, don't just replace it, assume something else is wrong to cause the fuse to blow and run the check list above.

[vivaro 013]

hello jeff
checked wires today, all seem ok , systems worked fine today , only thing i did notices is relay and wires are in a water proof box which is rather small and was warm , could it be that no air circulation is getting around relay causing it to heat up 

[jeff1]

Anything that produces heat should  be ventilated or have some sort of air circulation around it.
I'm not suggesting you do this, but if it was mine I would keep it away from water and damp, and drill a few holes in the back of the box, just to allow air to circulate and heat to escape.

The current drawn through the Pcb tracks can be high, over a period of time these tracks can lift off the board and eventually fail.

If you still have the old one take it apart and see if the tracks (silver lines) have burnt out, or if you can see any of the components have burn marks on them.
 if you don't want to do this you can send it to me and I'll tell you what failed on it.

[vivaro 013]

jeff thanks again for your help , i still have the old one , if you give me your email address or explain how to loads photos on to cleanitup i will take photos of split relay and send them to you
thanks again

[jeff1]

jeff thanks again for your help , i still have the old one , if you give me your email address or explain how to loads photos on to cleanitup i will take photos of split relay and send them to you
thanks again

Hi Vivaro
Here is my email address.
Reflections@jeffbrown.plus.com.
Email the pictures and I'll have a good look for you.