[spindle]

red

i work as a chef in a private members club

the members voted 2 years ago to make the club non-smoking.....

the club was at the time mentioned in the national press as being one of the first clubs to implement a total ban.
this was done only beacause the law was about to change..... ban in clubs and pubs.
however we do many large private parties 200+.........the smoking ban is lifted if the organiser requests it.


i dont think that the law covers private clubs due to the fact that the clubs are owned by a large consortium(all the members)5000+
there is a commitee who make and break the rules as they see fit.
however on a day to day basis the whole building is non smoking by choice.

dave.....
i wasnt suggesting that you dont have bills .only that i dont have regular enough work to be able to afford to stop f/t work

[AquaMagic]

The ban applies to all public places and work places, it an excellent opportunity to get a mailshot out to the pubs and clubs etc, the ban also apllies to work vehicles, you cannot smoke in your work vehicle even if you are on your own, unless ( it think) you are the only person to go in the vehicle i.e you are a one man band.  So if you have a helper you cannot smoke in the VAN even if you dont have you helper with you, crazy isnt it?

Dene

[ianharper]

Mike

all I am saying s that you might be leaving money on the table with your clients. you have equipment that can do other specialist jobs around your customers homes.

the cost of getting each client is much higher than doing more work for clients you have worked for before.

Respect

Ian Harper

[Mike Halliday]

Ian your right, I've added pressure washing to my services and tomorrow I'm going to LTT do do a leather repair & cleaning course. But I don't consider this a re-invention.

When you asked should we reinvent ourselves I thought you where referring to how some carpet cleaners are trying to sell themselves as 'health professionals' or 'guardians of the environment' : :

adding services, yes.

reinventing the wheel, no.

Mike

[carpetguy]

The smoking ban has had a devastating effect on the pub trade up here, in Scotland and, although I don't smoke and hate the nauseous feeling it gives me, as a secondary smoker, I believe the 100%, blanket ban adopted here, is wrong and detrimental to society.

The sight of a cluster of smokers standing outsite pubs is pathetic and causes a nuisance and danger to pedestrians and road users,

In Spain they introduced a partial ban, giving an option to Pub owners to be ............smoking or non smoking, with no access to under 16 's and banned where food was served.

There hes been massive closure of Pubs in Scotland over the past year

If the government follows the lead of the Scottish model, your local pub will probably close and there will be no business to be had, from pubs, in the future.

[spindle]

i think that it has been done quite cleverly by the gov.

bring the ban in  in the middle of summer..nobody will mind smoking outside

but come winter........the pubs/clubs/bingo halls will be quiet.

[carpetguy]

More than quiet Spindle....................it was difficult to get into the pub trade a few years ago............in the small town I live in, two pubs have closed in the past year and the remaining one, is not busy.

In a much bigger town 10 miles away, 50% of the pubs are closed and others are struggling.

Only the very mild winter " up here " has saved some, for now.

[Robert Watson]

"you cannot smoke in your work vehicle even if you are on your own, unless ( it think) you are the only person to go in the vehicle i.e you are a one man band."

Up here if your van is not sign written, you can puff away like mad, if it is they will hit you with a £50 fine and if your passenger smokes they will get a £50 fine and you an additional £50 fine.
Had them phone me up and gave me a warning. I wanted to tell them where to go, but as they drive about looking for us horrible smoking people, I thought it best just moan a lot as the begasterags
would follow me till I committed my terrible crime again.
Its great to live in a free country. I think see if theres any carpets to be cleaned in Holland.