[Davew]

Has anyone managed one yet wfp? Ive done seven now and i've not managed the perfect one . Is it possible to do? Admittedly all the jobs I have got have been filthy.

[Chris Cottrell]

it all comes with practice , I do them regular now

Chris

[Davew]

Washed a front door today and soaked the hallway! No drainage holes in the bottom of the door 'cos it was tucked under a porch I suppose.

[Chris Cottrell]

ouch

[edd]

never do front and back doors or make it wet where people walk rule No1
perfect first cleans every time with practise just remember to come back and rinse just below the top bar Edd

[Paul Coleman]

I've done first cleans where people have been delighted with the results so I have to assume that it was as perfect as it can get.  This only really happened once I decided to go around the first cleans twice in order to catch any muck coming down from the top frames though (50% extra charge).

[dai]

No such thing as a perfect clean, WFP or trad. We clean to a standard that's acceptable to our customers.
Do your own house on a bright sunny day. Then come in and do the insides.
If every window passes the closest scrutiny, well your a better man than me mate. And the vast majority of others on here. Dai

[Russell Macdonald]

I now get first cleans up to a very high standard, but i would not say perfect. Second time i still spend a little extra time but by the third time i'm confident & its normal clean.

never do front and back doors or make it wet where people walk rule No1

I always do the whole front & back door including frames. Just brush away water when you have finnished. Its one of the biggest things my customer comment on, clean front door & doorstep or porch brushed out, no leaves etc  . If it looks like freezing i spread a bit of rock salt.

Macc

[pjulk]

I only do front doors if no one is at home with WFP.

As i did it once and soaked the womans carpet due to the water going in through the letter box.

Paul

[Davew]

All customers seem happy so far and want me back for the next clean. It gets me down that I can not walk away and know that the panes are absolutely perfect. When I come back to collect I can always see some spotting somewhere.

[mike richardson]

we do doors aswell but it depends if its what we now call a letterbox or a wetterbox,

the latter has a flap that pushes inwards lol, these tend to let loads of water in the others dont, so we put a cloth in the letter box to catch the water,

[Russell Macdonald]

All customers seem happy so far and want me back for the next clean. It gets me down that I can not walk away and know that the panes are absolutely perfect. When I come back to collect I can always see some spotting somewhere.

I was the same a year ago, now i dont give it a thought, its all about confidence & that will come with time.

Macc

[macmac]

dave
if i wer you i wouldn't clean the top frame, just the beading. this will take time and practice to perfect but once you do, first ( or any for that matter) cleans wont be a problem. in my experience (3years wfp) doing top frames will bring you MANY more probs than gains. nearly if not all the spots you are seeing are a result of cleaning the top frame (provided your water is 000 tds & we're not talking georgian windows of course).  to be sucsessful at this you will need a rectangular brush fitted with pencil jets.

tony

[Davew]

Tony, thats what I thought but some of the frames are so bad I want to clean all round. I'm hoping to pick up more work by offering an all round service and improving the appearance of the whole frame and window - could be a mistake on my part with hindsight.

[macmac]

ok dave
maybe on the first clean then but on subsequent cleans its ok to do the side, bottom frames & sills but i would quit with the top frame especially ones with vents in them. if you do see the top frame getting dirty in future just wipe it with a wet brush i.e. no water flowing.
we all have different methods & oppinions but this works best for me, saves me a lot of time and hassle.
hope this helps

tony