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russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2007, 07:42:46 pm »
Thanks but I have been running the set up without varistreams
and when it comes to unplugging only doing it as little as possible.
Mostly keeping the poles attached and walking back to the van to switch them off.
I purchased the varistreams to enable me to unplug and not put undue pressure on the pump and also save a little water.
I have tested the varistream internal adjuster twice over completely going around the clock one by one.
My external (face ) setting I like around 1- 2  o'clock mark
Could it be that I have to reduce this (and reduce flow) to get the darned things to work??

pjulk

Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2007, 12:25:38 am »
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I purchased the varistreams to enable me to unplug and not put undue pressure on the pump and also save a little water

You can do this without a varistream i do it all the time without a varistream and never get a problem pump switches itself off.

I have a varistream but i didn't like it so took it back off.

I prefer the simple approach as Alex Gardiner has said less to go wrong.

Paul

russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2007, 08:09:42 am »
Paul

My pumps never turned off without the varistream
How did your turn off without one??
Having invested in this kit I would like to actually get it operating properly before I make a decision and fit them in another van.

Cheers Russ

Alex Gardiner

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2007, 08:17:34 am »
Hi Russ

If you fit a flow control valve (or something similar) to your pole hose you can turn the water supply off at your pole whenever you want to thereby saving maximum water.  Turning the valve off at your pole will trigger your pumps built in pressure switch which will switch off and put your pump under no strain whatsoever.  When you turn the valve back on, the pressure switch will switch the pump back on.  This is exactly what the pressure switch on your pump is designed to do. 

Davew

Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2007, 08:31:41 am »
So what is the point of a varisteam? is it just to provide adjustable pressure?

russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2007, 08:38:00 am »
Alex
Thanks for the info
My pumps have never switched themselves off when I have disconnected my poles.This is the whole purpose of me forking out for the varistreams.
I have the 2 x 60 psi Flo-pumps and neither one has ever done this.
Either I am being very unlucky here or there must be something more to it ( or I am doing something wrong)
The plot thickens and I am getting nowhere!
Do appreciate all the replies
Please keep them coming as I do not want to remove the varistreams at this stage of the game.
All I have done with the pumps is disconnect what I believe to be the pressure switch at the base of the pump (undo one screw and pull wires off two terminals)
This is exactly as williams pumps instructions

Davew

Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2007, 08:56:52 am »
Beginning to see where your coming from now Russ, so it looks to me like your pumps never build enough pressure for the varistream to sense that the pressure has been reached so they don't switch the pump off. Are your joiners weeping at all anywhere from your system? Didn't you swap your DI vessel to after the pump - don't know if it would make a difference though.

Rob_B

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2007, 09:05:12 am »
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My pumps have never switched themselves off when I have disconnected my poles.This is the whole purpose of me forking out for the varistreams.

You haven't got a bypass on your pumps have you?

russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2007, 09:10:29 am »
The pressure has always been pretty good as I do tend to use quite a lot of water.As for leaks I do use the plastic hozelock connectors but they are changed fairly regularly and I cannot see any leaks at all.

Rob - how do I find out if there is a bypass fitted??

Anyone else with a flo-jet 60 psi pump know the answer to that one ??

Chris Cottrell

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2007, 10:20:34 am »
Maybe posting some pics of your pumps and the setup may help someone to advise you better

Chris

russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2007, 11:30:00 am »
pics of the two pumps / varistreams

Chris Cottrell

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2007, 11:33:55 am »
Russ have you tried turning down the dial cause i use 100psi pumps 100m micribore and the vari2's are never used on more than the 11oclock position
Chris

russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2007, 12:34:50 pm »
I have gone through all the settings again this morning on one of the pumps.
I have got the external setting at 12 o'clock and the internal on (a)
the result of this is that when I disconnect the pole the motor is slowing down and after about 30 seconds it goes off then 2 seconds later kicks in again
(all very slowly) and keeps repeating itself
So my question now is :-
once you unplug should the varistream shut the pump down immediately or is there a delay??
If there is supposed to be a delay in it shutting down the pump then its probably me being an impatient twat.
If there should not be a delay then I am getting warmer :)
but not there yet :(

Ladders

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2007, 12:38:28 pm »
Quote from: russ_clark

Ladders what reel / hose do you use please.

Any more suggestions guys ??? ??? ???


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Hi Russ

I use same as you 100mtr microbore, hose reel from b & q.

Jeff
For every problem there is a solution

Ladders

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2007, 12:48:18 pm »
Russ

Dont know if this makes a difference but your pump is not a flojet, it is a different pump to mine.

Jeff
For every problem there is a solution

russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2007, 12:58:06 pm »
Thanks for that Jeff
They were purchased from omnipole who assure me they are manufactured by the same company ( Flo-Jet? )


Ladders

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2007, 01:02:18 pm »
This is my pump & varistream Russ.
For every problem there is a solution

Chris Cottrell

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2007, 01:11:16 pm »
Russ

mine stops about 4/5secs later and the internal (blue) dial is set on "G"
Chris

Ladders

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2007, 01:11:48 pm »
Russ you say that when you unplug your pole the pump does not switch off, if the pump is still running where is it pumping water to.?

Jeff
For every problem there is a solution

russ_clark

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Re: varistream settings !!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2007, 01:21:26 pm »
Chris  -does it remain switched off??

Jeff     -the pump motor is still working (you can hear it) so when I plug back in you can see by the increase in the water jet that the pressure most be building up.It does not blow any fixings off but can't be doing much good-which is why I have bought the varistreams in the first place.
Bit of a vicious circle for me at the moment ??? ???