[master cleaner]

or you could use one of these  ive got 2 had them nearly 2 years now without a single problem , they come in 50ltr and 125 ltr



hope this helps
gary

[KINGAKNAA]

liking the look of the freedom system, especially as you can van mount when you are ready. Only just started on the trad route but already looking to add a trolley system for future work there are a few new 3 storey developments on the way in my area and I'm looking to get into them.

I see the Ro/DI unit is included along with some poles to get started. Nice.

How much does the Freedom system cost?

[Alex Gardiner]

If you must have a trolley system, then the Freedom trolley is probably the easiest one around.

However most people start out with a trolley, but 3 years down the line never use it. Save yourself the money and go for a Van system straight away. You will save time, money and your back.

[Clive McDonald]

To underline that, I've just set up a 400lt trailer.But I find it's too heavy and hard to maneouvre. Van is the best route. All the suppliers seem to give good advice.

[adixon]

the system is advertised at £995 free delivery and the design has changed slightly looks good

[JohnL]

As I have said many times before you have to use the system that fits your round. I could not work from a van - would love to but it would be a pain in the neck, so we have to work the way the round demands.

[Alex Gardiner]

Hi John L,

Nice area you live in , we stayed up there last October.

Why can you not do your round from a vehicle??

As well as having a very large commercial round, we also have at least 2 days a week domestic work, which is in and around the coastal villages of Cornwall. We find a 500litre tank and 2x 60metres of microbore suits our domestic work spot on. We would definitely take longer and  it would be much harder work with a trolley system. We know because it is how we worked for the first 6 months. We have yet to find a house that would be easier with the trolley.

Alex

[Paul Coleman]

As I have said many times before you have to use the system that fits your round. I could not work from a van - would love to but it would be a pain in the neck, so we have to work the way the round demands.

Funnily enough, I have done things a bit differently.  As I prefer working from the van, I have errrrrm pruned much of the work where I couldn't park close enough.  I still have work where I need a trolley though and wouldn't ditch the trolley as you never know when you might need it.

[pete albion]

ordered the freedom trolley yesterday, have to wait about 3 weeks for delivery...........................

so thats me, i'm almost a wfp boy now 

[JohnL]

Alex, my work and round which is not a full-time occupation at present, is easily done with a trolley, and I dont find filling it a hassle although I would welcome something like a 35ltr container on it. 

At times I do use a 60 mtr microbore hose off the trolley which gives excellent flow rates to 25ft ( havent tried anything higher as I dont have the need ) and its great for certain houses but I find pulling a trolley with me is a lot easier than hauling a hose then having to reel it in for 80% of my round. Also the obstacles I encountered with the hose are a pain in the neck- ornaments,garden pots etc - why do larger houses think they need so many urns and statues?

As it works for me I dont see the value in the extra expense of a van etc for my round as it is now. However I do see the long term value if the returns fill the right boxes. btw I work out of the back of a Pajero 4x4 - a Shogun in this country 

keep up the good work down there 

JohnL

[Alex Gardiner]

Hi John L,

I see, it offers you the option of being flexible with the types of work you do.

Shoguns seem to be quite popular down here. There are a couple kitted out with tanks etc for window cleaning. Also seen a Jeep Cherokee recently in North Cornwall. I think that we have more WFP operators per head of population down here in Cornwall than any other county in England. I know of at least 150 WFP'ers in a population of just 500,000. What this does provide is a wide variety in vehicles used. I always like it when someone uses their imagination in their choice of vehicle, makes life interesting.

Alex

[craig jwc]

I used about 3/4 of the hose (6mm Microbore) & cleaned upto 40foot with no problem with water flow.

Infact i'm doing tham again today

Craig

[JohnL]

4x4s have been invaluable in bad weather conditions over the last few years but I must say with the mild winters we have experienced recently I am not so sure of the overall value - especially as it only runs to 20 mpg      -  but its my personal vehicle, its old but I love them!

Yes you are right Alex - flexibility is the key. Ease of use with little outlay is the way for me with a trolley based system, but I would love to able to have a 35ltr tank cus that level seems to be about right.

JohnL

[KINGAKNAA]

Think i'm sold on the Freedom after looking through the forum. Would love to go straight into a van mounted system but funds wont allow...

99% of my work is domestic so really need to cart a trolley about, I've read a few posts about people leaving them in their vehicles and linking the system up to a larger water container. Thats probably the route I will be following eventually till I get properly into WFP. Prices aint great up here so may take a bit longer.

So the Freedom comes with all the gear to get started including RO/DI system, poles and brush. So what else do I need to get me going? Gonna set it up in my outhouse where there is a water supply and electric socket inside.  How big a water container do I get and how many 25L (think thats what the Freedom takes) containers should I be looking at?

Cheers 

[pete albion]

kinga
i've ordered  8 25ltr containers and going to get a large waterbut from b & q, 230ltr i think they come in.
and will set up in my conservatory.


can't wait my freedom trolley should be with me in a week or two 

[KINGAKNAA]

changed my mind again I think Pete..... backpack favourite at the mo.....8 containers and a big butt for me too....

[mike richardson]

kingaknaa said he couldent afford a van set up?

i bought a trolley

but have now set up a van mount for about the same money prob slightly less actually.the trolley is is my van all the time now as well as a van mounted system,its far easier than the trolley with all the barrels to lug about every day, & the hoses pull out so much quicker,

[pete albion]

the main reasons i've gone for the trolley system is

1) i cant afford to buy a van aswell as the system

2) i don't have a drive or garage so have to park in the street, so can't run a hose across the pavement to fill up a tank in a van

[KINGAKNAA]

Exactly the same situation here Pete. Can get set up for about £550 backpack system and everything required. would cost me about £1200 for trolley system. A fair difference when you're just starting off in WFP.

Wish I could afford a van and system..... Not making big money up here. People will not pay the prices. Cheapest van I've seen is £795 for an R reg escort, then all the gear on top...

[poole bay]

how long does 25 ltrs last on the trollys . thanks