[Bazzy1999]

How do you guys deal with flacky paint with WFP, i have quite a few on my round and im just wondering how you guys deal with it.
Im asking coz i got one of those DI things from Halfords to clean your car and i tryed it on my garage window with flacky paint and i washed it with a Vikan brush while spraying it with 000 pure water and i rinsed for ages and i went back to it around 3 hours later and it was dry but it looked like there was dryed milk all over it so i done it again and again but the same resalt.
How do you get over this?


Bazz...

[craig jwc]

I had this problem before.

Just keep scrubbing the frame and rinse well.

It will clear after a while.

The paint on the frame has oxidized which happens with old paint and sometimes on plastic frames.

Craig

[macc]

I had this problem before.

Just keep scrubbing the frame and rinse well.

It will clear after a while.

The paint on the frame has oxidized which happens with old paint and sometimes on plastic frames.

Craig

Like Craig said, turn your water up a bit, loads of scrubbing & rincing, they do come good but its a bit of extra effort.

Macc

[seanmcshane]

don`t bother with WFP on these. Clean them trad. If too high, don`t clean at all.
The amount of water you will use to clean away all the damaged paint, I can guarantee you will cause water damage over a short period of time to the wooden frames as they are no longer protected by a paint finish.

The amount of water will not only look horrendously messy to the customer but will affect your available working time due to depleting your water supply.

They always cause problems. Ladders out and done trad in a fraction of the time.
Save your WFP and water for nice UPVC or well maintained painted windows.
One tool for one job, another tool for another.

[Trevor Knight]

don`t bother with WFP on these. Clean them trad. If too high, don`t clean at all.
The amount of water you will use to clean away all the damaged paint, I can guarantee you will cause water damage over a short period of time to the wooden frames as they are no longer protected by a paint finish.

The amount of water will not only look horrendously messy to the customer but will affect your available working time due to depleting your water supply.

They always cause problems. Ladders out and done trad in a fraction of the time.
Save your WFP and water for nice UPVC or well maintained painted windows.
One tool for one job, another tool for another.

Have to say having had a few of these, especially the old dears houses, after a thorough first clean haven't had any further problems.

You are right regarding the amount of water use initially, but after the first clean its as normal.

Personally I would give the house a good going over and think you will be surprised how easy they are.

[D.Salkeld_Ltd]

My Opinion.....

If the paintwork has lost its gloss and is powdery (test it by rubbing your finger over a bit of frame - iff you get a white finger - it's oxidesed) you will get milky runs down the glass.  Two choices:

1.  Do Not Touch the frames.  Use a rectangle brush (not Vikan oval!) and a swivle head. The only frame you have to scrub is between top an bottom panes. Shaded bit in the picture.

2. Scrub the whole lot as already mentioned

[Ian_Giles]

Flaky paint itself isn't a problem, oxidised paint or frames is (UPVC can oxidise too).
For me the solution is to wash and scrub frames very thoroughly the first time, do a few windows then go back and re-do the glass only.
Once you gain some experience you can usually cope ok with this work...

On frames where the woodwork has been exposed for a long time, the wood absorbs some of the water and then releases it after you've gone leaving spots and marks, tell em' tough luck on upstairs and squeegee off ground floor (I still use  WFP on them, but tidy up with squeegee)
I won't get out ladders to clean upstairs windows for anyone, only use them for access to flat roofs and so on.
I'll only compromise on ground floor work, and not at all on georgian or leaded!!

Ian