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D woods

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2006, 09:28:14 pm »
That seems a good deal

niceandclean

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2006, 09:38:43 pm »
Really good deal, they dont come along very often.

julianbiggs

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2006, 11:10:48 pm »
Yeah it's a great deal..had to do some serious " networking" you know, keeping in touch with the site managers over a period of many months before the building started. The best thing is the houses are only  ( and i'm not kidding)  about 400 yards from where i live. I can actually see the showhome from our bedroom window!!

Also, my business cards have gone in all the "new home starter packs" which the developers give to each new home owner...usual stuff about local contact numbers.
Should hopefully get some new customers from that too...


Helen

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2006, 11:18:02 am »
Julian, are you CIS registered? Check out with the company offering the contract if you need to be, as this could lead to a big delay and agro when payment is due. If you are cleaning them 3 times are you negotiating payments for each time you clean or one final payment? Just be careful if these houses are not yet sold you could be looking at monhts before you receive any money!

Ian_Giles

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2006, 11:26:53 am »
Helen, you don't need to be CIS registered for window cleaning for builders, what we do is outside of the building regs.
Window cleaning is not deemed part of the construction process.

Regards,

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Helen

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2006, 11:34:12 am »
Well clearly it depends on who the builders are and how they read the regs.
We have done loads of work for Kings Oak who are part of the Barrett empire and they insisted we got CIS.
Whilst I agree that window cleaning might not appear to be part of the 'Construction Process' whilst it is a building site the CIS payment scheme applies.

Ian_Giles

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2006, 11:38:19 am »
Not to the taxman it doesn't ;)
Ring him and check for yourself ;)

but if you are doing a lot of work for big builders, then it doesn't hurt to be registered...its a great way of saving and paying your tax bill, do enough of that work and you'll probably get a rebate at the end of your tax year.

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

DaveWilkinson

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2006, 11:56:49 am »
This should be of some help as the cis scheme is changing a bit in april 2007

http://www.new-cis.com/


Pdh

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2006, 04:04:04 pm »
just had a constuction clean i needed a cis

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2006, 04:19:14 pm »
Quote
Well clearly it depends on who the builders are and how they read the regs.
We have done loads of work for Kings Oak who are part of the Barrett empire and they insisted we got CIS.
Whilst I agree that window cleaning might not appear to be part of the 'Construction Process' whilst it is a building site the CIS payment scheme applies.


Even though i do have cis i have to say that i also have done a lot of cleaning for barratt homes,i told them you dont need cis for outside cleaning and after checking found i was right.

texas girl

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2006, 05:21:06 pm »
Julian,

Way to go with that great marketing strategy!!!!!  :o It just goes to show that if you want to "catch a fish" you must put out the "BAIT".

Congratulations! Everyone should pay attention to what helped you get this contract. You are focused on good marketing techniques. 

This is an awesome accomplishment!

Hugs,

Texas Girl :-*
Debbie

Paul Coleman

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2006, 05:33:41 pm »
Julian,

Way to go with that great marketing strategy!!!!!  :o It just goes to show that if you want to "catch a fish" you must put out the "BAIT".

Congratulations! Everyone should pay attention to what helped you get this contract. You are focused on good marketing techniques. 

This is an awesome accomplishment!

Hugs,

Texas Girl :-*

I reckon he sent the site manager your calendar pics   ;D

julianbiggs

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2006, 06:34:18 pm »
Yes i do have a CIS card....the building company ( which is a big one ) asked to see it, as well as my H & S policy, method statements and risk assesments. I wasn't even allowed onsite until they had received all of these.

In answer to a previous question i was sent the site plans for every single property so sat up for some very late nights working out how much to charge them...obviously had to get a good balance between making it worth my while and not pricing myself out of the market. It obviously worked.

Paul Coleman

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2006, 07:11:45 pm »
Yes i do have a CIS card....the building company ( which is a big one ) asked to see it, as well as my H & S policy, method statements and risk assesments. I wasn't even allowed onsite until they had received all of these.

In answer to a previous question i was sent the site plans for every single property so sat up for some very late nights working out how much to charge them...obviously had to get a good balance between making it worth my while and not pricing myself out of the market. It obviously worked.

So you had to do the risk assessment BEFORE you could enter the site?  That seems to diminish the value of it.  Although you could do a generic one, didn't they want a more site specific one?

Moderator David@stives

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2006, 12:51:13 pm »
Its quite strange but i still have not been asked to produce a risk assessment for any of my jobs.

I do a lot of commercial and blocks of flats, also some building site work.

A cis card is only required if you clean the inside of a new build as outside cleaning is exempt

Dave

julianbiggs

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #35 on: December 10, 2006, 04:04:48 pm »
No i just used my generic one...I was allowed on site just not allowed to do any work until they had received these.

Can anyone explain in simple terms the use and benefit of me giving them my CIS card from a tax perspective ??

Paul Coleman

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #36 on: December 10, 2006, 04:11:30 pm »
No i just used my generic one...I was allowed on site just not allowed to do any work until they had received these.

Can anyone explain in simple terms the use and benefit of me giving them my CIS card from a tax perspective ??

I believe the difference is that they would have to pay you in full allowing you to make interest on the tax money until you paid it out.  The other way, they retain the tax money, pay it to the taxman at some point, and you claim it back eventually.  I'm not clear on timescales though.

texas girl

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2006, 12:55:23 am »
Hey Shiner;

 ;D
Debbie

P®oPole™

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Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2006, 09:01:30 am »
Just a word of warning, be careful of putting all your eggs in one basket, if possible don't ditch any of your other work until you are certain that this contract is a perminent one. Oh & be careful of companies that want to renew your contract on a yearly basis, the chances are they will probably look for cheaper quotes than yours, each anniversary.

I'm very pleased for you but in my experience I would much prefer lots of small jobs than one big one.

perminent  ;D

I will say no more now, except dont ever correct someone on a forum ;)

ProPole

Paul Coleman

Re: Ive been offered a huge 5 figure contract..
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2006, 09:37:05 am »
Hey Shiner;

 ;D

Hiya Debbie.
Nice calendar pics.  ;D