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Robert2006

Polish workers?
« on: November 22, 2006, 11:22:09 pm »
What are you thinking about Polish workers ?

Phil Marlor

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2006, 11:57:09 pm »
Well the Government have us believe they are here to do all the jobs we dont want.

Dose anyone honestly believe they will pay Tax.

I could write a book on what I think about people coming over from the Eastern Block countries.

Those that have been here a year can now sign on for all kinds of benefits
77,000 have done just that already :o

Phil
Stevenage, Herts

LUTON TOWN 3-0 SUNDERLAND

pdl

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2006, 08:28:47 am »
Mine Do, through their payroll PAYE Scheme
Never ASSUME, to ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME              Cannock Staffordshire

Robert2006

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2006, 01:03:13 pm »
Well the Government have us believe they are here to do all the jobs we dont want.

Dose anyone honestly believe they will pay Tax.

I could write a book on what I think about people coming over from the Eastern Block countries.

Those that have been here a year can now sign on for all kinds of benefits
77,000 have done just that already :o

Phil

I belive they do pay tax !! I belive the Polish people are more hard working than others nationality !! This is no truth that Polish people are on benefits. They came to UK to earn money ...not to be poor !! :)

Fred Gullan

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2006, 01:45:06 pm »
I have polish workers . The ones I have are honest and hungry for work.They are grafters and have no hang ups about paying tax. Mind you they are JW,s

Cleaning Resource

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2006, 05:51:27 pm »
i`ve got three they all work extremely hard, trustworthy and reliable. in their country the cost of living is about the same as it is here yet most only earn about a pound an hour you can`t blame them for coming here.

I`ve also had a couple of nice free holidays to poland it a lovely place in the summer 8)

Magdalena

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2006, 11:26:16 am »
I am polish. I came to London five years ago and I never try to get any benefits. I am a hard working person and I pay all my taxes. Most Polish people are well educated, honest, reliable and hard working. Is this bad?
When I arrived, I worked as a cleaner for nearly three years. Now I run a small cleaning company.

wrighty

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2006, 12:01:38 pm »
Good Luck to you Magdalena. 

I think a lot of British people are lazy and want money but dont want to work for it.  From what I hear about polish people I wish I had some working for me

Craig

Mike_Boxall

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2006, 12:17:37 pm »
There are a lot of contractors actively looking for Polish staff. Generally they are extremely hard working, reliable and intelligent. Most get paid the minimum wage and appreciate having the work. We're currently working with a food producer who employs 450 staff - 90% of them are Polish!

There are obviously going to be long term issues with so many migrant workers around but, for now, the cleaning industry is certainly benefiting from them.

Regards

Mike

 

seanmcshane

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2006, 01:45:23 pm »
the only benefit is extra profit to the business owner in terms of lower wages...certainly doesn`t benefit the people who have been employed in the cleaning industry for many years who have suddenly found their positions unworkable because of the low rates of pay the Polish will work for.

There are many builders out there now facing financial crisis within their lives, due to the work they have always been employed on at the correct industry rate for their level of skill and experience suddenly being no longer available because the Polish workers will do it for much less. They don`t worry about a UK mortgage as a lot of the employing companies are putting gangs of them up in rented houses for buttons, the Poles living on a pittance and sending money home to their families where the economy is massively cheaper than the UK.

As long as employers are allowed to rub their hands together in glee at the massive reduction in their wage bill and pocket their subsequent higher profits, they will continue to ignore the implications on the UK worker and employ those people who undercut the established wage in the UK.

I do not dispute the fact that the work ethic is reputedly superior to the average English worker and I would never deny any person the right to employment if they have the level of skills required, but why does the wage for that job suddenly have to be reduced massively? There is no difference in the job being done so the pay should remain the same as it always has been for UK workers.
At the moment, selection for employment is being carried out primarily on the basis of the lower wages acceptable to the Polish candidate. Make the wage an industry wide acceptable level and selection will then come down to experience and other job related employability characteristics.
At the moment, the Employer is getting fatter, the UK worker is getting thinner and the Polish worker is being taken for a ride...but they are ok as their mortgage is getting paid back home.

window pain

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2006, 10:40:39 am »
when will someone have the courage to expose this myth that poles and other eastern europeans do not claim benefits, there are 55,000 poles claiming tax credits for their kids in poland. yes they are perfectly entitled to claim, why not? employers are taking advantage by setting up low wage businesses to undercut  legitimate businesses, they use the tax credit system to supplement their employees hourly rate, in the end its the tax payer who subsidizes these employers. they make increased profits while employees can't get a decent hourly rate, doe's anyone really care?

Robert2006

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2006, 09:22:07 pm »
when will someone have the courage to expose this myth that poles and other eastern europeans do not claim benefits, there are 55,000 poles claiming tax credits for their kids in poland. yes they are perfectly entitled to claim, why not? employers are taking advantage by setting up low wage businesses to undercut  legitimate businesses, they use the tax credit system to supplement their employees hourly rate, in the end its the tax payer who subsidizes these employers. they make increased profits while employees can't get a decent hourly rate, doe's anyone really care?

Ble ble ble...I'll tell you guys something. I'm in the cleaning bussiness for over 7 years ..I had company in USA and UK and I'll never hire usa or british worker. Most of them are lazy and not care about job. I always will hire easter european specially Polish people . I know they came to work I know  they to afraid to lose their jobs. THEY CARE !! AND THIS IS IMPORTANT IN THIS BUSSINESS. I know that i don't have to woke up 5 morning to cover work because Polish worker never call sick ( exept really emergency ) . :)

aderyn06

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2006, 09:38:21 pm »
ahemm, don't suppose you're Polish by any chance? ;)

aderyn06

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2006, 09:43:28 pm »
Anyway saying all Brits are lazy is a sweeping statement isn't it? My hubby works bloody hard he's away from home all week and sleeps in a truck. The one time he was out of work as the company he worked for went out of business he pretended he was on holidays as he was too ashamed to say he had to sign on albeit for just 2 weeks.
Please don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Perry

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Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2006, 11:11:45 pm »
You have started a dispute that can not be ended.
 

Robert2006

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2006, 09:07:06 am »
Anyway saying all Brits are lazy is a sweeping statement isn't it? My hubby works bloody hard he's away from home all week and sleeps in a truck. The one time he was out of work as the company he worked for went out of business he pretended he was on holidays as he was too ashamed to say he had to sign on albeit for just 2 weeks.
Please don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Maby he sleeps to much ?? hehehehhe ( kiding) :P

Robert2006

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2006, 09:15:32 am »
ahemm, don't suppose you're Polish by any chance? ;)



Of course I'm Polish and I'm proud to be Polish :P .... and I wrote " Most of ..." not   " ALL "  :P...

seanmcshane

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2006, 10:45:48 am »
so you are Polish and would never employ English... >:( >:(

A good job the English don`t have the same discriminatory attitude...for the polish workers that is!!

The only reason you and other employers employ Eastern European workers is the reduction in your wage bill...simple!!
If the Polish workers are so good, why not pay them the correct industry rate??
They obviously deserve it!!

paul bruce

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2006, 11:15:12 am »
They are good and bad with every nationality,in addition to  my oven cleaning business i am also a partner in a food packing business which at busy times uses temps  from a local agency. A couple of East Europeans walked off the job saying they did not like the smell in the factory ( seafood) but some others along with English,Iranians ,Africans are great.

 
  :)

 

Robert2006

Re: Polish workers?
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2006, 11:48:07 am »
so you are Polish and would never employ English... >:( >:(

A good job the English don`t have the same discriminatory attitude...for the polish workers that is!!

The only reason you and other employers employ Eastern European workers is the reduction in your wage bill...simple!!
If the Polish workers are so good, why not pay them the correct industry rate??
They obviously deserve it!!

I'm not discriminate anyone I'm doing what is the best for my business and my family. I will hire people that I think are the best and I cant count on them in hard time  .. I love Brits AND  thank you guys for open BORDERS !! but  BUSINESS IS BUSINNES !! There is not time for political correctnes  :) Welcome in capitalist world :P