[Ken Wainwright]

I would never move furniture onto pre-sprayed carpet.

If there is. for example, loose dye as on Stag Minstrel and some Swedish furniture, it will bleed IMMEDIATELY.

I would advocate pre-vaccing and moving furniture as you go. either into the middle or into one half of the room. Clean and ideally leave as is whilst you do the same in another room and so on, then return to the first partly dried room, replace the furniture on tabs or blocks and clean the remaining carpet and so on to the end of the job.

Picking up on Derek's point about pre-spraying.  Prochem Training, and probably others too, taught me to use a Traffic Lane Cleaner where required and just the appropriate detergent rinse for untrafficked areas. Many of us now use a TLC as an allover pre-spray, and with many systems this is essential as the rinse is only tap water. So, for untrafficked areas a simple detergent rinse may be all that is required. Obviously, if there is any visible soiling or staining, this should be treated as appropriate.

Safe and happy cleaning
Ken

[Art]

Matthew,

 You really need to get yourself on some sort of carpet cleaning course, as judging by what you've posted your going to end up having problems or more importantly your going to give carpet cleners a bad name.

Arthur

Arthur,

It's unfortunate that you have chossen to be so negetive In your response!

You have been out shawn by all the other fellow members of the forum.

This Is what the forum Is for, to "HELP" each other with any problems that we may encounter as I would have only been too willing to help you If you had any problems or questions!

Matthew

Matthew,

 I wasn't trying to be negative.

I was giving you the same advice that was given to me when i started.
I'm sure if you ask the question  should i go on a course, you'll get the same answer as i gave.

Arthur

[rich hand]

In well over a thousand carpet jobs I have never found the furniture dye to transfer to the carpet. 1 occasion dye from furniture was transferable was onto my towel when I first tested it as you would for carpet dye!

Re. presrpaying under furniture, if it looks dirty prespray and if there are draft marks, prespray, otherwise dont bother. We all should have an eye for dirt by now.

Sometimes theres just too much text book and not enough thinking  :

[carpetguy]

Rich hand says , he's never experienced dye transfer, in over a thousand jobs.

Unless you are placing glides or similar under the furniture, before you start, there is no way you could avoid dye transfer, unless, of course, you are using chemicals which have eluded me for 20 years, or there's something you're not telling us.

I got dye transfer a couple of weeks ago, totally unexpected, from the "feet" of a leather suite and always expect it from any dark stained furniture.

robbie

[Kev Loomes]

In well over a thousand carpet jobs I have never found the furniture dye to transfer to the carpet.

If this is the case then I find it astonishing! Are you sure that it hasnt happened and the customer hasnt noticed until a couple of months later when they move a piece of furniture? - and by then the customer thinks that there's no point in ringing you?

The problem being with this is repeat work - it wont be there! No disrespect but surely your taking a huge risk and should be placing tabs/blocks under ANY wooden/metal legs like most of us do. Your probably going to run out of luck eventually. We had a couple of instances a few years ago where dye had transfered from extremely light wood - which we got out after going back, so its not just dark wood    Subsequently its been standard practice for us for years now to ALWAYS place things under.

But if its worked for you - good luck 

[Shaun_Ashmore]

the good book by the NCCA and others guidlines are to save us from accidents BUT you have to remember that it is written for every eventuality.

It is also manditary to use common sense.
(unless you are not common, like me )

King Shaun

[Buster Ingram]

Its all quite simple really, all I do is use plastic sliders made from 5ltr containers under the furniture when I move it to the middle of the room, when I have pre-sprayed. Thus saving the feet marking the wet carpet.
Then when I return it to its original place I use tin foil cut accordingly to fit the feet of the furniture.

How simple is that.  it ain't rocket science you know.

You all know me  "Cheap as Chips"
Another tip from Blue Peter methinks
 

[Kev Loomes]

Shaun

I got your e mail. I could tell you but I'd have to charge yer

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Kev as we say in Sheffield, "tha no good"

Dave I got your message thankyou!!!!!!!!

Shaun

[Buster Ingram]

Forgot to say Nice web site mate, you look almost professional
like what I do  :
If you do go for one of those sprayers Shaun Maplins have batteries on special offer at the moment that will make them run much much better!!!!

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Do you think they'll fit one in me, the wife's glass eye is either playing up or she's wanting something :

Shaun

[Derek]

Rich Hand

Sorry to be so pedantic but I am thinking ...how much soil is airborne, whether people smoke in the premises plus a multitude of other incidents...soil not so apparent but nevertheless there!

[craigp]

foil tabs! i just used curtomers foil, i tell them i left mine on last job, mainly cus its pain in backside carrying it. got enough crap in van.

[Kev Loomes]

Ere Shaun, have you used the same template?! http://www.fresherclean.co.uk/ Its just that Ive seen them about a few times.

[ollie]

 also matthew when you replace the item of furniture on a pad or block offset it a couple of inches from its original position and tell the customer to remove the pad and put it in its correct position when the carpet is dry otherwise it may not dry under the legs etc... if the customer is elderly or disabled etc i go back the next day and do it for them
regards
ollie

[Mike Osbourne]

I'm of the same opinion as Craig. Don't clogg the van up with chemicals. Just get custy to wack some of their fairly liquid in a bucket.  :

[Steve Chapman]

It might be worth seeing if they have a vax, save getting all that gear out

steve

[Robert Watson]

If they have,
you could probably talk them through it over the phone.
would save having to get out of bed.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[craigp]

come on guys time is money!

if  it  don't  move  go  round  it![/color]

[Shaun_Ashmore]

Kev, Mark Roberts UK did it for me I'm very happy with the design.

Shaun