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j.v. price ltd

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water fed poles
« on: November 15, 2006, 08:05:47 pm »
To all the commercial water fed pole boys beware!  One of the largest facilities companies in the uk has banned wfp from being used on any of there site due to two accidents in a month!!!!!!
One wfp user dropped a pole in a busy high st onto passing pedestrians. The other was a wfp user looking up walking backwards slipped off a curb and into the road and was hit by a bus. No one was killed but it could have been so much worse.

At J.V. Price Ltd we use WFP but I must add only on glass walls without running frames.

One person said to me once would you let someone clean your car from 40ft away....?????????

The way forward I think with window cleaning is working safely at height.

I know my spelling is S@>t all you WFP users that will now think i'm the evil one now saying this but just telling it from the other side.

WFP have there pro's but in commercial they have there cons

WFP will never replace traditional well not as long as i'm trading and I'm only 23 so there is a few more years in me yet.

All the best to everyone TRADITIONAL and WFP

Mike_G

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2006, 08:07:52 pm »
Oh boy, wait for it.

mfwindowcleaner

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2006, 08:11:15 pm »
To all the commercial water fed pole boys beware!  One of the largest facilities companies in the uk has banned wfp from being used on any of there site due to two accidents in a month!!!!!!
One wfp user dropped a pole in a busy high st onto passing pedestrians. The other was a wfp user looking up walking backwards slipped off a curb and into the road and was hit by a bus. No one was killed but it could have been so much worse.

At J.V. Price Ltd we use WFP but I must add only on glass walls without running frames.

One person said to me once would you let someone clean your car from 40ft away....?????????

The way forward I think with window cleaning is working safely at height.

I know my spelling is S@>t all you WFP users that will now think i'm the evil one now saying this but just telling it from the other side.

WFP have there pro's but in commercial they have there cons

WFP will never replace traditional well not as long as i'm trading and I'm only 23 so there is a few more years in me yet.

All the best to everyone TRADITIONAL and WFP
If they were working in a busy high street then appropriate warning signs should have been in place
also the guy with the kerb shouldve been more careful (IMO)
sorry to say but sounds like if normal common sense was applied both were avoidable ...

and im not just sticking up for the pole brigade as im still trad
i also do my high street work at 7am when there is no one around (Common sense)  ;D
" You can take the girl out of Cork "

j.v. price ltd

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2006, 08:21:22 pm »
I agree common sense I think that has always been the problem as we have been trading for nearly 40 years and not had one fall from ladders.


D woods

Re: water fed poles
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2006, 08:21:51 pm »
Hi Mr Price
What is the name of the FM company that has banned water fed poles?

Mike_G

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2006, 08:26:16 pm »
warning signs or not  many more incidents like that and those nice health and safety people will be banning poles as well as everything else.  At the moment there does not seem to be a requirement to get permission to use poles on public highways but maybe that will change after all if your using a 65 pole and cordon the area you are working in off, then I reckon you will have to close the whole road down. There cant be that many roads 65 foot wide in town centres

j.v. price ltd

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2006, 08:29:48 pm »
can't say as not supposed to no and dont want to get in trouble with the window cleaning firms and the fm company is a large customer of mine.

D woods

Re: water fed poles
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2006, 08:30:44 pm »
OK

j.v. price ltd

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2006, 08:31:57 pm »
as soon as I get the ok I will post on the site and drop you an email.

D woods

Re: water fed poles
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2006, 08:34:12 pm »
Thank You

j.v. price ltd

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2006, 08:46:54 pm »
I think I have got off lightly after posting that or all the wfp boys haven't seen this yet.

AuRavelling79

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2006, 08:50:39 pm »
JV Price - I think you work in a specialised area of window cleaning and your experience is interesting but not all-encompassing in its relevance to much commercial wfp use.
It's a game of three halves!

j.v. price ltd

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2006, 08:58:08 pm »
can you explain that comment for me as i think there is only one type of commercial window cleaning and if this started to become a trend i think it would affect many members.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2006, 09:00:19 pm »
An interesting point.

On nearly all of my commercial work they would not allow me on the premises with anything other than a WFP.

Alex

j.v. price ltd

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 09:20:25 pm »
It is werid thats why I posted it as I have quoted some jobs that have had to be only wfp.

Guess its like safecontractor loads of our customers don't even wanna know till you show them you have the certificate..

Re: water fed poles
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2006, 09:43:15 pm »
One wfp user dropped a pole in a busy high st onto passing pedestrians.

It's lucky for the pedestrians that they were hit by a pole, and not an extended set of doubles or even triples.

I know what I would rather be hit with.  The pole every time!


 The other was a wfp user looking up walking backwards slipped off a curb and into the road and was hit by a bus. No one was killed but it could have been so much worse.

Three window cleaners have died so far this year from falls from height.  One we had a whip round for some flowers for his Missis; donations from members from this site; another was a 21 year old lad.

Wozza

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2006, 09:50:15 pm »


Just gives me another reason to stay with domestic customers then !

Thanks


pjulk

Re: water fed poles
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2006, 10:10:13 pm »
I don't think any other will follow suit.
I have gained commercial work because i have a WFP and don't want ladders being used.

Still accidents are always going to happen what ever method you use.
You just need to minimise the risk as much as possible but you can never eliminate them.

Paul

Re: water fed poles
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2006, 10:23:04 pm »
This is just a wind up post isn't it?
You are 23 and have been trading 40 years ;D

j.v. price ltd

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Re: water fed poles
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2006, 08:30:49 am »
I'm 23 Yes and J.V. Price Ltd has been trading for 40 years. Second generation family business.