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macleod

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the NEW argument
« on: November 10, 2006, 09:45:14 pm »
well i figure the WFP versus LADDERS argument is now well and truly over (God rest those Ladder Boys)... and most of the ladder boys have wised up to WFP, so what can we argue about now?

My suggestion is this... Domestic versus Commercial.

my opinion is that your nuts to have a domestic round (its okay to start off but not if your serious about W/C as a business).

The way forward is commercial only...

So all you Domestic Boys tell me why do you do it? When it rains you cant work your mad!

<a href="http://WFP &amp; Commercial rulz ok!" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://WFP &amp; Commercial rulz ok!</a>  ;)
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2006, 09:51:42 pm »
I work 24/7 and live in a village. So for me domestic almost rules. They stay loyal unlike big business that wants it done for X ammount. Commercial the way forward, You are wrong.  8) everyone else is doing that. Provide a service and provide the answer.
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macleod

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2006, 09:55:51 pm »
when it rains you cant work
when the winter arrives your 'loyal' customers tell you to wait till spring
do one bad window and they moan moan moan
collecting cash at night/weekends
your limited as to what you can charge, and so you are limited as to what you could earn
you have to compete against the dole squad


hmmmm i think im right

wise up you domesti boys to the bright shiny commercial world
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aztec

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 10:01:24 pm »
one thing though you dont have to wait 30 days for your money doing houses!

we do both so houses pay the bills commercial is the cream on the cake!
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supernova77

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2006, 10:02:39 pm »
Right fellow "domestic boys"... Lets all go commercial and provide more competition for macleod!

macleod - Why on earth are you trying to suggest we all go commercial, surely its not in your best "serious business" interests to do that?  ::)

Personally I have a mixture of domestic and commercial (more domestic at the moment). The thing I like about domestic is that you are not tied down to certain days and certain times etc...

Andy
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bluesteve

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2006, 10:07:04 pm »
oh mcleod  ;D just won a big contract have we?
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macleod

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2006, 10:09:40 pm »
oh yes please

the more of you slap happy Dommestic Boys going for commercial work the better
make my job so much easier
then the real quality will shine through and i would win more and more work at higher prices too!  ;)

domestic negatives are just soooo long that i dont think i could lust them all...

as for being tied down with commercial, i think not.

do you work on a 4 week rota? i do. but just like you i can give or take a week and it dont matter plus if it rains you have to pack up your bags and go home

mixing commercial and domestic is like mixing your drinks - you shouldnt do it as it will make you sick

but i guess it is better to leave the commercial work to the professionals  8)
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craig jwc

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2006, 10:13:06 pm »
My round is mainly domestic and i work in the rain.

I earn good money for the hours i do.

I can pick or choose what work i want to take on.

If i lose a job it can easily be replaced with not much loss of income - if you lose a big commercial job it's not that easy to replace and the income could be noticed quite a lot if it's a big paid job.

I don't go collecting.

I get my money before 30 days are up.

Errr  I'm happy how things are going for me and the work is still coming in - Domestic and Commercial.

If mixing Domestic and Commercial is like mixing your drinks then perhaps you should stay on Squash ;D

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Extremeclean

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2006, 10:14:36 pm »
What a load of old Tosh  (Sorry Tosh no pun intended)

Commercial is competetive enough already and it's going to get worse. I have commercial contracts from local offices to national companies and although some of them are cream jobs by far the majority are very keenly priced and as to 30 days getting paid I say IF YOU ARE LUCKY.

So many get the illusion that commercial work is the bees knees. I think its more of a cudos thing than hard headed business.  

I am rapidly expanding my domestic client base and can tell you for a fact that if decently priced and well planned it's much more lucrative and cash positive than 90% of commercial.

Dont be fooled and get yourself a load of headaches and a bad cash flow by trying to go all commercial.

Rich.

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Roy Harding

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 10:15:02 pm »
Quote from: macleod on November 10, 2006, 09:55:51 pm
when it rains you cant work
when the winter arrives your 'loyal' customers tell you to wait till spring
do one bad window and they moan moan moan
collecting cash at night/weekends
your limited as to what you can charge, and so you are limited as to what you could earn
you have to compete against the dole squad


hmmmm i think im right

wise up you domesti boys to the bright shiny commercial world


Wrong on all statements.

Roy
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Mr. S

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2006, 10:15:52 pm »
A LIL BIT BELOW THE BELT MC LOUD

IM A PROFESSIONAL AND PROUD ONLY DO DOMESTIC AT MOMENT BUT I BET IF I DO COMMERCIAL GIVEN A LIL BIT OF TIME ID SUS IT OUT AND  MAKE IT WORK!
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Mr. S

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2006, 10:16:51 pm »
BUT THIS IS TURNING INTO A GOOD DEBATE
I WILL LEARN FROM THIS ONE
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macleod

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2006, 10:22:13 pm »
dont take it personal riversidewindowclean, just stirring the pot.

anyway back to business: the right commercial work (which I have) is priced well and i can work it all year round i have lost work (2 client in 2 years) i turn down work more than i lose work.

the right commerxial work follows a simple set of rules, which if adhered to makes better sense than staying a Domestic Boy (unless thats what you want, which is fair enough).

Ive said it once and i will say it again. im right you are wrong  :-*
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supernova77

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2006, 10:24:07 pm »
LOL - Looks like this ones backfiring on you macleod  ;)
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macleod

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2006, 10:25:26 pm »
eh? re-read these post Andy... and you will see that i am right and you my friends are all wrong  :-*
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windows_chepstow

Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2006, 10:26:51 pm »
Macleod,

Upteen replies in about five mintes; spot on! ;D

You're definately stimulating debate, which is what you're after.

Good post.
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Jason Atwell

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2006, 10:28:25 pm »

the more of you slap happy Dommestic Boys going for commercial work the better
make my job so much easier
then the real quality will shine through and i would win more and more work at higher prices too!  ;) (QUOTE FROM MACLOUD)


Tell me why you 'ARE THE REAL QUALITY ' Mc nugget!!!
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macleod

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2006, 10:31:01 pm »
ah your a vison of wisdom so far Tosh, nice to see that.

its crazy that some grafters will plug away day in day out doing cheap as chip domestics

the battle over WFP and LADDERS has been won, most WFP men could do better going commercial and leave the Ladder Boys and their Domestics well alone...

i was a Ladder Boy with a old silver escort and my ladders strapped to the roof rack, not now, cos I wised up?

who else will join my band of merry men?  8)
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supernova77

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2006, 10:31:10 pm »
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eh? re-read these post Andy... and you will see that i am right and you my friends are all wrong

Macleod,

If you take your head out from where it is at the moment  ;) and you re-read the replys you will see that the majority have been pro domestic.

As I say - I have a mixture of both domestic and commercial so I can see the pros and cons of both.

Andy
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macleod

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Re: the NEW argument
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2006, 10:37:02 pm »
hi Andy... just taken my head out from where it is at the moment (that did make me laugh) and all i can see is lame duck excuses why you boys havent gone 100% commercial...

havent seen a single argument that shows Domestic is better than Commercial yet I have listed quite a few that show Commercial is Better in every way to you Domestic Boyos... prehaps i could be so bold as to ask you to get someone to help you re-read these post Andy... and you will see that i am right and you my friends are all wrong   ;)

any way
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