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Sarah Sarill

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Perm pen on Leather
« on: October 20, 2006, 05:19:57 pm »
Anything I can do to get two, fairly small lines out of a seat cushion. Its berol perm market pen, blue and red.

Thanks for any advice,

Sarah


Sarah

david_m

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2006, 06:46:52 pm »
hi Sarah

i have had some suecess with this useing solutions
eco spotter  from memery i think, 1 mark took me about 20 minutes
of dabbing with a terry towel but it did come out in the end

    davy

fibresafe

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 08:22:56 pm »
One Step Zap It will do it. The trouble is that you need a solvent product and it may remove the colour from the finish as well as the marker - test in an area that deoesn't show first. You may be better off calling a leather techie. 

NigelD

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2006, 10:51:52 pm »
Sarah,

What type of leather is it?
Pigmented, Aniline or Nubuck?

Most common leather is pigmented, therefore you are cleaning the coating on the leather. Too much solvent in the wrong hands can start breaking this down. You end up with a bigger problem than you started with. More importantly the problem is now yours. If it's Aniline or Nubuck probably it won't shift.
You would be best off speaking to someone who is trained and has experience in leather repairs.

Regards

Nigel

Mark Lane-Matthews

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2006, 11:05:33 pm »
Spray hairspray on to a cotton bud and wipe,it works
                                                  mark

vangaurd

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2006, 04:36:16 pm »
stain remover from furniture clinic
i have just been on the course.
works a treat.

Sarah Sarill

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2006, 08:41:00 pm »
Thanks guys,

Im not sure what sort of leather it is but it was cheap  :(

Unfortunately, I cant even turn the seats over as the underneath is not leather  ::)

Its a brown suite so not too noticeable - but I know its there  :-\

Will patch test the the hairspray and if that fails I'll call in a pro  ;D

Sarah

Sarah

*paul_moss

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2006, 09:41:33 pm »
Sarha
Easy to solve this one , phone Ben on Monday 01914826112
he will advise and send the necessary chemical in the post or if your still unsure he can recommend somebody local to come out.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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LTT Leathercare

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2006, 01:04:36 pm »
Telephone us on 01423 881027 and we will give you the correct technical information on how to resolve this.

We also have a register of fully trained leather technicians who will be able to help. 

Hairspray may make matters much worse so it is best not to try it.

Hope this helps

Judy
http://www.lttleathercare.co.uk
Leather Consultant to the Furniture and Cleaning Industry
Leather Cleaning, Care and Restoration products and services
AMU
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vangaurd

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2006, 06:55:21 pm »
bi cast

LTT Leathercare

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2006, 07:01:29 pm »
If it is bicast then there is nothing that will remove it.
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vangaurd

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2006, 07:02:32 pm »
will take the finish off

*paul_moss

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2006, 07:21:38 pm »
If its a cheap suite then doubt bicast,prob just highly pigmented leather. Ben at Furniture clinic has a good stain remover that is good for pen/biro, give him a ring on the number I posted earlier.
He is a bit cheaper than LTT, but same quality as he makes it him self were as LTT have to buy it in. ;)
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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LTT Leathercare

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2006, 08:17:26 am »
If it is a permanent marker then nothing will take it off other than a solvent which will then remove the finish, even more so if it is bicast.

A cheap suite could easily be bicast.  A spot remover will not remove this unless it contains solvent.

Regards
Judy
http://www.lttleathercare.co.uk
Leather Consultant to the Furniture and Cleaning Industry
Leather Cleaning, Care and Restoration products and services
AMU
IICRC (LCT)
NCCA
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*paul_moss

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2006, 06:59:20 pm »
Again Judy to the rescue  ::) ::) ::)
Wonder if she is like this at home ?  ;D
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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*paul_moss

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2006, 07:36:47 pm »
Furniture  Clinics  stain remover will remove permanent marker form bi cast easily. Any ink stains will come out with the ultra clean easily.
And yes BI cast is cheap, but the point was that it is more likely to be straight pigmented  one colour leather.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
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LTT Leathercare

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2006, 09:28:15 pm »
Permanent marker and ink stains do not normally just clean off leather. 

Have tested permanent marker on bicast and cleaners including ultra clean will not bring it off. Anything that will bring it off must contain some sort of solvent which will remove the finish and will then need replacing.  There are nitrocellulose finishes that can be used for this but on bicast it is more tricky than on a pigmented leather.

Regards
Judy
http://www.lttleathercare.co.uk
Leather Consultant to the Furniture and Cleaning Industry
Leather Cleaning, Care and Restoration products and services
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*paul_moss

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2006, 09:40:04 pm »
Your right it does not always come off,it depends on time,age of finish and type of ink.But if it does not fully come off then it is easy to strip top coat and reapply in a couple of minutes.
Paul Moss  MBICSc
www.mosscleaning.co.uk
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LTT Leathercare

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2006, 09:53:39 pm »
Top finishes can be replaced using todays modern finishes in aerosols but a lot of cleaners will not even realise they have done any damage and will therefore leave the suite in a worse position.

Thats why it is important to understand what you are dealing with and how to deal with things that may happen, hence the training.
http://www.lttleathercare.co.uk
Leather Consultant to the Furniture and Cleaning Industry
Leather Cleaning, Care and Restoration products and services
AMU
IICRC (LCT)
NCCA
SLTC

NigelD

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Re: Perm pen on Leather
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2006, 12:47:40 am »
Paul

Interesting to read that a top can be re-applied n a couple of minutes.

Do you mean mixing and applying the colour?

Nigel