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JohnL

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Price of Water
« on: October 03, 2006, 06:25:15 pm »
If you are making your own water for WFP has anyone worked out the actual price of producing a litre of water after including all the expenses involved?

JohnL
West Somerset. On the edge of the Quantocks and looking at The Exmoor National Park.

Rob_Mac

Re: Price of Water
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 06:50:42 pm »
I'm on a meter and run purification overnight.

water is £1.70 per cubic metre. Divide that by 1000 and add a couple of pence for electric & filters etc

Rob ;D

Re: Price of Water
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 06:59:09 pm »
taking into consideration all things except our unit it costs us approx 122p per 100 ltrs

rgds
stu

Rob_Mac

Re: Price of Water
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 07:55:03 pm »
Stuart

What are you adding onto the price of the water to make it so expensive

Rob ???

JohnL

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 10:43:19 pm »
Midas -

no resin costs then? no replacement filters, no set-up costs ie Ro or Di units, containers, hoses,  etc?

To All

Generally it seems the actual cost of the water is being ignored in the costing and running of the business! 

Only asking because I have not seen a topic on water costs mentioned here.

JohnL
West Somerset. On the edge of the Quantocks and looking at The Exmoor National Park.

marc

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2006, 11:52:00 pm »
so how much does water cost to produce 2p 20p or what per lilter any one got the answer

Pj

Re: Price of Water
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2006, 07:57:56 am »
I'm on a meter and run purification overnight.

water is £1.70 per cubic metre. Divide that by 1000 and add a couple of pence for electric & filters etc

Rob ;D

As Midas has said.

Look on your last water bill, or phone the water co.  Check the price per cubic metre which is the same as 1,000 litres, I believe.  Don't forget to take into consideration your waste.
For most single operators your water usage for w/c will be no more than £10 per week.

Ian_Giles

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2006, 10:24:55 am »
The price per cubic metre depends on which water board supply you and also whether you are on mains sewers too.

I'm not on a metre and we have a cesspit for our waste.

My own water bill per year (this current year) was £99.00.

Other costs such as replacement membranes, resin and pre-filters also need to be factored in of course, and there is not going to be just a single figure that will suit all people, that will also depend on water hardness, water pressure, how well you care and maintain your equipment.

As John says;
Midas -





Generally it seems the actual cost of the water is being ignored in the costing and running of the business! 

Only asking because I have not seen a topic on water costs mentioned here.

JohnL

These costs are almost hidden in some respects, a lot just don't think about it, they see they are doing more work per hour and end out charging less than they were before porely because they are quicker :-\

In some instances people are going to spend several thousand pounds on equipment, they will have a business with higher running costs and yet they will drop their prices through the floor to be more competitive than the opposition!

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

petski2

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2006, 10:51:28 am »
Quote
My own water bill per year (this current year) was £99.00.
:o :o :o :o :o
Jees mine is now £69 per month.
Used to be £21 per month before wfp.
Thats £828 per year.
Man I hate those meters. >:(

Rob_Mac

Re: Price of Water
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2006, 02:33:20 pm »
JohnL

No resin costs - haven't used resin for 12 months - my tds is 000

Tanks, RO units, pipes etc are set up costs. They are not an ongoing cost.

Filters are about £6.00 each - I believe I mentioned a couple of pence in my post

Rob ;D

macc

Re: Price of Water
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2006, 02:56:23 pm »
Quote
My own water bill per year (this current year) was £99.00.
:o :o :o :o :o
Jees mine is now £69 per month.
Used to be £21 per month before wfp.
Thats £828 per year.
Man I hate those meters. >:(

Hell, what are you moaning at, we are not even on a meter & our water bills are nearly £600 a year.

It just shows how ripped off we are in the SOUTH.  >:(

Macc

petski2

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2006, 03:06:03 pm »
Macc,roughly how much water do you use per day?

macc

Re: Price of Water
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 06:30:26 pm »
Macc,roughly how much water do you use per day?

Hi.

I use on avarage 200ltrs a day at work.

Macc

JohnL

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2006, 08:22:13 pm »
This is getting more interesting!  :)

I asked because of the amount of water used in certain instances - some usage is small and some will be large if the pics posted are anything to go by and I wonder, when you guys price a job is the water price  factored in?

and well said Ian G

JohnL
West Somerset. On the edge of the Quantocks and looking at The Exmoor National Park.

JM123

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2006, 01:06:35 am »
Quote
My own water bill per year (this current year) was £99.00.
:o :o :o :o :o
Jees mine is now £69 per month.
Used to be £21 per month before wfp.
Thats £828 per year.
Man I hate those meters. >:(

Hell, what are you moaning at, we are not even on a meter & our water bills are nearly £600 a year.

It just shows how ripped off we are in the SOUTH.  >:(

Macc

but then you lot down there can charge a lot more per job
Live life in the fast lane.......if you break down you'll freewheel further

Ballymena N.I

EasyClean

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2006, 02:25:03 am »
I live down in the south west and I pay well over £600 a year for the groco's (tourist) to come down here to enjoy our clean beaches. How fair is that? We have the highest water bills, high house prices and really poor wages. Bring back national water bills and abolish privatisation of the water companies which the conservative party introduced in Maggie Thatchers era.
Losing a customer is like waiting for the next bus, another one will come along shortly!

P @ F

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2006, 12:29:13 pm »
YOU LUCKY LOT !
Unless i have misread , i reckon i have the most expensive water in the world !

 £3.50 per cubic meter {Plymouth} SW

 However , i am DI only , 60 ppm , no waste water .

 Not sure if im getting this right , but i have worked out that i am paying 0.0075p per litre .

 Any body want to put me right ?

 Rich   P @ F
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

P @ F

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2006, 12:43:07 pm »
Stupid me , you will need the ammounts !

 £3.50 .......cubic metre of water {60ppm} Di only.
 £80.00 ....bag of resin .

 I bet most of you will get 0.095 !

 I can explain my answer , can you ?

 Rich   P @ F 
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

JM123

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2006, 01:00:09 pm »
a cubic meter is 1000ltrs - therefore 1 ltr is 0.35p,
Live life in the fast lane.......if you break down you'll freewheel further

Ballymena N.I

P @ F

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Re: Price of Water
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2006, 01:09:22 pm »
I feel daft as pig poop here , JM123 , Do the sum for me with the figures i have given would you please , either im more stoopid than i thought or my calculator is on the blink !

 Rich  P @ F 
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !