[P®oPole™]

When using poles 25ft and above,

would you stand in one spot using only your arms?

or move your whole body around, doing a little jig and bouncing around, steppin back and forth for the scrub, and stepping side to side for the rinse.

The reason I ask this is because I imagine it would be pretty hard with the brush off the glass, there is no way you can do the side to side step becauce the window hasnt got the pole resting against it lightly therefore meaning your arms would have to work over time surrpoting the pole. Because if it was lightly on the glass the frame would stop it falling to the left when you step right, some of you know what i mean.

Does this mean that the brush off brigade are at even more risk?

Im rather worried by my finds on the other thread I started for the majority of the time it was 60/40 in favor of the brush off brigae. The amount of you guys rinsing brush off is ludacris. The only thing I can think of is that guys rinsing brush off must only be doing it at 18ft on domestic stuff. Because when you go higher you need to use your body not your arms and must rinse brush on to achive such a teqnique.

All replys and opinions welcome.

ProPole

[simbag]

I find the further away from the building the easier the scrub is, as you are able to step back and forth, without much movement from your arms, but the rinse is more difficult. I do generally rinse, by tipping brush head to an angle, and using arms to rinse side to side.
However, if I stand closer (ie with a shorter pole), if find that the rinse is a lot easier, but the scrub is more work, as you have to move your arms to get the brush the full length of the glass because the pole is shorter, and there is a steeper angle.

[P®oPole™]

Good reply simbag 

Standing further away takes alot of the strain out of the operater, its all about stepping back and forth for the scrub. Also tilting the brush when rinsing is good on certain windows and helps to feel more confidient about leaving the brush on, or at leat sometimes on depending on the task at hand.

Although I rarley take mine off, I will only lift my brush off on minni pole work if the window is sheeting like mad. If it beads in the slightest I will leave it on. Double trim brushes kept clean with monoflaminent (however you spell it) bristles, high flow rate 2ltrs + p.m with good technique, is how its done. However there is times even at 18ft I will lift my brush off but only a handfull thoughout the day.


Regards
ProPole

[Jeff Brimble]

I get by on 1/2 litre per min.

[P®oPole™]

I get by on 1/2 litre per min.

Hi Jeff,

that means you would be alot slower and will probably use the same amount of water or more. and put considerable strains on your body with the brush off teqhnique, I know you are using super light fishing rod poles but in general, its longer and harder work, for identical results.

Regards
Alex

[macc]

Hi Alex.

Where abouts are you in london mate.

Macc

[P®oPole™]

North London, near Enfield, can I be of any assistance mate?

Regards
Alex

[Jeff Brimble]

Alex there may be another consideration, I clean glass only and charge at least double if they want the frames doing (not many round will pay that )  I could easily use 2 litres per min but find that in the rural area I live, you need to use just enough water for the job you are doing. Obviously local/weather conditions affect useage.
I thought you guys down there were supposed to be cutting back with the drought orders and leading by example. ?

[P®oPole™]

Jeff I conserve water to a degree but I will use as much water as I need at that time or job im doing. As as I mentioned earlier more water = faster working rate which= roughly about the same amount of water used. But more work can be achived at the end of the day with the faster working rate.

Please could you answer my question about technique, do you use your arms or your body to manouver the poles when cleaning windows.

Kind Regards
ProPole

[Jeff Brimble]

Well I am just in the process of recovering from a damaged elbow (Bursitis) that swole up like and egg, so have had to clean basically on handed for the last 2 weeks, using the light poles. I had to use my opposite hand singly just using the dammaged arm as a guide to do this.
The rules on the right technique have changed for me since Januaruy 8th  as I now only will ever use fishing poles which are very, very extremely light and I no longer have to work with the risk of injury ?
To try to answer you question, 8 yrs previous to that I mainly used Unger alu or Ionocs ergolight with a backpack and just used my upper body and arms. 

[macc]

North London, near Enfield, can I be of any assistance mate?

Regards
Alex

Hi Alex.

I like the way you talk & your attitude. Ive only been wfp 10 months now & was wondering if icame up for a day next month i could work with you, you seem to know a bit about wfp & im always open to tips. Ive a Tucker van mount so i will come with my set up.

Macc

[P®oPole™]

North London, near Enfield, can I be of any assistance mate?

Regards
Alex

Hi Alex.

I like the way you talk & your attitude. Ive only been wfp 10 months now & was wondering if icame up for a day next month i could work with you, you seem to know a bit about wfp & im always open to tips. Ive a Tucker van mount so i will come with my set up.

Macc

Hi Macc,

That wouldnt be a problem, although im not sure how much you can learn from little old me. I to have only been wfp for about 11 months and learning new tricks everyday, however I would be more than happy to have you work along side me for a day an pick eachothers brains to learn different tricks and techniques which we have both picked up along the way.

Drop me an email sometime mate, and we can make an arrangement.

Your doggs are the nuts mate, are they a breeding pair of Rotts?

Kind Regards
Alex

[JM123]

I modified one of our brushes slightly - it means we are always rinsing off the glass as it were.  take a look and you'll see what I mean.

Patent applied for.

[P®oPole™]

Hi JM123,

Could you please answer a question that I have, seen as you supply brushes and poles etc, what is the correct method of using poles.

would you recommend rinsing brush on or off?

and what technique, body or arms?


I like the idea of jets (not fan) above bristles or brush, if you get the patent you could be onto a winner there mate. has anyone done this before as tom_thinks_he_knows_it_all_currie said tucker have this design or similar already.

Look Foward to your reply,

Regards
Alex


 

[JM123]

I have a vastly improved design that I am having a patent search carried out on.  Personally I feel its much better to rinse off the glass, but with some brushes the water and dirt flows freely enough to allow the operator to rinse on the glass.  Its horses for courses, all I'm saying is that if you rinse off the glass you never need to worry about the bristles being contaminated.

However, with the brush pictured as you come down the glass the jets are above the bristles at all times - hence the same as risnsing off the glass.  Also I have removed over half of the bristles, making it ridiculously light, also allowing the remaining bristles to splay out a lot more thus making the brush much nicer to use.

[macc]

Hi Alex.

Ive emailed my numbers to you.

There both boys, thanks mate there wicked, Breno has had his off but Major still has his tackel but i would not breed from him as he has a bit of a hip prob, his temperment is perfect so its a shame. Im going to get a stud Rott then i get choise of litter each time.

Im sure theres a few things you could teach me, hopefully the other way too.

Give us a call & we can have a chat.  

Macc

[Jeff Brimble]

Thats the ticket JM. Drilling out the spaces is bril;liant and also removing bristles you dont need creates a pattern that allows the bristles to scrub on their sides and press on the glass. Gazs bristles are "crooked" and should in theory be great,but too many makes it a bit s"tiff", maybe its a topic for us all-What makes your ideal brush ? , instead of adapting a basic floor brush. Bristle length is also important.
Whats the weight JM ?

[P®oPole™]

Ok look foward to it, I will give you a call sometime over the weekend mate.

Regards
Alex

[Peter Fogwill]

Propole, what brush do you use?

Peter Fogwill

[macc]

Ok look foward to it, I will give you a call sometime over the weekend mate.

Regards
Alex

Cheers Alex, im out tommorrow till about 5. 

Macc