[david68]

I thought the tips on using wfp was a good post for me and have saved all posts to my Cleanitup Note Book which i have started to make.

So i know you guys have said many a times how to use the pole to clean windows.

But i still think i am going over the top with my pure water.

Could you posts your methods here so i can save all posts to my Note Book.

Make them as  idiot guide as you can for me.

Regards Dave.......I know this may be a lot of typing but it would make me understand finaly i hope

 

[david68]

Please....Please.

I will give you all a copy of my book

[Trevor Knight]

Initial Clean:

Soak window frames
Turn off water and scrubb frames only, pay attention to corners and top frame.
Turn on water (high) and thoroughly wash frames
Walk away to next frame and do as above

When finished ALL the building go back and clean glass only as below:

Normal Clean:

Place brush onto the glass pane and with water on, brush along the top of the glass in a side to side motion for a couple of times.
Then brush the glass from top to bottom in an up and down motion until you are satisfied with the clean (normally 2 times across the glass)
Finally starting at the top of the glass rinse in a side to side motion completely all the way down the pane until the bottom. (try to see if the water is sheeting, this is a good indicator the glass is clean although some glass doesn't sheet ever?)
Then turn your brush head and wipe the sills.

Monitor the frames on each visit and when they need a clean you can clean the frame then the glass but make certain you thoroughly rinse off.

Hope this helps,

Trev

[david68]

Trevor
Thanks for the tip

[david68]

Think i am making hard work of this,
My 30 ft pole for normal house is killing me......

Dave

[james cairns]

david if it is an unger pole take the hose out of the centre and use it outsyde this way you can use a couple of sections for 18ft and rejoin when you need it for 30ft

or else buy a 18 footer. most guys start with the unger poles and progress to more lighter poles when the workload justifies buying

there is no guide lines in wfp you must do this or that, you do what suits you best

jinky

[david68]

There is no name on pole .

Its red and as 4 exstensions on it, Its the one supplied with the freedom trolley.

Made from fibreglass and clamps are levers.

I believe its a popular pole what you get with standard WF systems.

Money is tight at the moment, but i will be wanting to buy a 17 ft and 3ft pole.

If anybody has one for sale cheap let me know

Thanks Dave

[chris@c.m.s]

David are you extending it from the top section first?

[david68]

Yes

[Alistair@AWC]

Money is tight at the moment, but i will be wanting to buy a 17 ft and 3ft pole.

When you get round to buying these you should have a look at Gardiners and think about buying a bespoke 5 x 4' pole, that will do tops and bottoms and has gotta be cheaper than 2 poles.

Not bought one yet, I'm struggling along with a 3 x 6' pole but if I had my time again thats what I'd buy! 

Alistair

[Jeff Brimble]

Tip, buy some sun glasses. You cannot use them when trad because you need to see what your doing, but with wfp you can now afford the them as you dont need to see what your doing so much. With your head and up near the sky line you have to be careful, in the states a few wfpers have burnt small spots at the back of the eye- permanant damage.

[windows_chepstow]

David68,

Try the Unger poles.

Many guys here say they don't like the look of them, since the hose is on the outside.

But they're class poles; really light and you only need to use the sections required for the height you're working at.  For much of my residential work, the first two sections are only required and they're extremely light.

For my first four months of WFP window cleaning I initially used an Ionic 18" Fibre Glass pole.  It was heavy; especially for ground floor work.

Switching to the Unger was like a dream; once you get used to the clamps.

It's a cheap pole, but excellent; and will last you for years and years.

I've just got the first five sections which will probably reach to third floor (four storey) buildings, but I only clean to second floor; presently.

I purchased mine from Peter Fogwill for around £180, but this was just over a year ago mind.

[Clear Vision]

David68,

I purchased mine from Peter Fogwill for around £180, but this was just over a year ago mind.

  £180  Even a year ago!! Thats expensive!

I got a 6 section unger pole and all In all I think I paid In total £120 ish.

[P @ F]

David68 , by the sounds of it your using the same pole i did when i started out , i looked at it as better to get a longer pole than one is too short , after 12 months of breaking my back i went for the 18 foot extender , 3 sections , it is longer than you think , and what a joy to work with compared to the heavy duty 4 section you are using , dont get me wrong its a spot on pole but dont kill you back , ring Alex at Gardiners or Rich at Varitech 01752 263333 , sorry dont have Gardiners number to hand !

 Rich   P @ F

[JM123]

David68 the pole you are using is an exel universal, the same as the standard poles that alex gardiner supplies.  My advice is to buy the same pole as P@F, the 18ft extender, the extender poles are lighter than universal and if not abused will last you probably about a year.  I'd also advise getting a 12ft extender - gem of a pole, super light, compresses to 4ft so easy to use on downstairs work and high enough for most 1st floor work - the 18ft extender willcome in handy for anything higher.  Most of our work is residential and of that the 12ft extenders are used about 75% of the time, worth their weight in gold

[Jeff Brimble]

Please could someone weigh the Universal and/or the  extender poles on their kitchen scales with the brush on/off- for my database.

[david68]

Thanks for all your input about the poles.

I will take your advise, soon as money starts coming in.

Could u tell me what would be the best brush head to buy with new pole?

Dave

[P®oPole™]

My tip mate dont lift your brush off the window when you rinse theres no need. 

[Alistair@AWC]

David,

Again Ive not got one yet but the next brush Im buying is a Vikan 10" Sill Brush from Gardiners for £25 + VAT http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/shop.html

Will make those upstairs Sills a piece of cake, I currently using a Vikan 25cm Brush and I find it great although when new they can leave red smudge marks on white uPVC but it rubs off easily enough.

And I know everyone goes on about the weight of the Excel Pole but I just think they've been spoilt with these super light poles cos they are not heavy at all, come on guys this is a manual job 

Regards

Alistair