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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2006, 11:31:59 pm »
Sorry Tim! Thats what you get for being a God!!

Regards Rob.

Mr BSF

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2006, 11:39:58 pm »
Hi to all the above. I have emailed you all.
Apologise for the lateness, but like i said before, am not on the forum every day these days. ???

Regards

Tim

not every day but at least 6.5 days per week ;D joke

Tim Downer

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2006, 05:55:01 pm »
  ;D  ;D  ;D
Tim Downer
Manager

"The difference between Ordinary and Extraordinary.....is that little Extra"

Tim Downer

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2006, 05:59:23 pm »
Actually.....After Mr.BSF's comment, would recommend everyone look at their statistics in their profile.

Could prove a tad worrying!!

I have been on this forum now for 5 days, 21 hours and 49 minutes. But would like to point out that i have not been on the forum much between the hours of 1 - 4 in the morning  8)

Tim
Tim Downer
Manager

"The difference between Ordinary and Extraordinary.....is that little Extra"

Mr BSF

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2006, 06:19:38 pm »
Hi Tim,

think what you could have done with those 5 days on here ???

I didnt know that was there until you pointed it out, ive no way of finding out my true stats as ive been red carded on a few occasions :o

its like big brother is watching your every move ;D

regards

BSF

martin19842

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2006, 11:38:51 pm »
hi there

apparently i dont talk about windows a great deal.

regards

martin

need a cleaner

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2006, 06:57:49 am »
thx Tim we hAVE RECIEVED IT,I WILL HAVE ALOOK OVER THE WEEKEND WHEN I HAVE A BIT MORE TIME :)

opps sorry for the caps

Jon Tabbener

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2006, 10:08:52 pm »
Hi Guys would it be possible for someone to send me a copy of the said spreadsheet   ;D

Ta

Tabbener@hotmail.com

Many Thanks
Cleaner Carpets

normski

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2006, 10:07:48 pm »
Hi Tim

Could I have a copy of the spreadsheet too please.
Just started doing builders cleans and it would be reallly useful.

Thank you

Norman Herring

stormcleaningservices@fsmail.net

Tim Downer

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2006, 11:25:46 pm »
Hi Tabbs and Normal.

Have sent you emails. Hope they help

Regards

Tim
Tim Downer
Manager

"The difference between Ordinary and Extraordinary.....is that little Extra"

Jon Tabbener

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2006, 12:07:08 am »
Many Thanks  ;D
Cleaner Carpets

alm

Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2006, 07:10:14 pm »
Hi Tim

I've been out of touch for a while (PC Problems) and not been able to get onto the forum. Just getting into builders cleans, i'd be really grateful to recieve a copy of the the 'spreadsheet' it would be such a help at this early stage.

Ta very much, Tim

Best regards

Andrew
andrew@lettsclean.com :D

 

ColinD

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2006, 08:04:40 pm »
Pricing of such a possible contract is subjective. Things to remember. You must ensure that you will have free and unhindred access to the areas to be cleaned. i.e. Once the builders have finished and ALL THE SNAGGING has been completed.

Treat the areas to be cleaned as intense D.O.C. So if you would use one cleaner to clean a specific area for a specific amount of time I would add 1/3 to half as much again for a similar are in the builders clean.

Once you have cleaned an area, get it "signed off" by the Builders/site foreman/client representative. If you have to go back to clean the area again, if the builders have been called back in, you can then charge for a reclean on tha area.

Equipment: Depends on the type of construction that has been undertaken and whether the contractors are cleaing up after themselves and this is just a clean and not a debris removal and all in sundry contract.

One last piece of advice: Check your insurances both PL and EL. If you usually undertake normal Contract Cleaning and not "one offs" that may involve you in areas that you have no H & S or Risk assessment for you could be in contravention of you policies. Sorry to be doom monger but stranger things have happened in the Cleaning Industry.

Good Luck.

Nils illegitimi carborundum

willinghands

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2006, 01:50:16 am »
Hi Tim

would it be posible for you to send me a coppy of your spread sheet please. Thanks

willinghands

willinghands

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2006, 01:53:18 am »
Hi Tim
Sorry Tim I for got to put my email
Its wilinghands@yahoo.com.au

"would it be posible for you to send me a coppy of your spread sheet please."

 Thanks

willinghands

martin19842

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2006, 02:40:10 pm »
hi there

getting sign off is all well and good in theory,

we are into the last week of september, developers are struggling to get completions for next friday.

then after  next friday, its the 13 week race to the end of the year, most developers year end is december, its hard work,!!!!!!!

regards

martin

Art

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2006, 05:52:43 pm »


getting sign off is all well and good in theory,


Hi Martin,

 Just out of curiosity, what do you do when the inevitable happens and the sparkie or the plumber has to go back into a unit that's been cleaned and makes a mess.

Loads of your posts come to a sudden stop, which always leaves me wondering.....

Arthur

ColinD

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2006, 07:32:33 pm »
When Sparkies or plumbers go back into an already cleaned area?. That is why, when you have cleaned an area you should go to the site foreman/client representative and have the area signed off as cleaned to their satisfaction. If there is a recall to trades for some other reason, and a re-clean is required, then, if you have phrased the  T & C's correctly you should be able to charge, somebody for the re-clean. If not it burns a big hole in the profit.

It's straight commercial practice. Once it's been cleaned, to clean it again costs somebody, and hopefully it is not the cleaning contractor.

It's not a theory. That is the trouble with the cleaning industry, we, according most trade sit at the bottom of the food chain. We should and must sit at the top of the food chain. Without us, that is the industry as a whole, nothing and nobody would work. It's about time we stood up and made the point. Cleaning, whether it be builder's cleaning, retail, offices or industrial, without cleaning companies, and their staff and more importantly their expertise, nothing would operate. I know i sound like a nutter, but it is about time that we stood up and shouted the point. We are the most important ipart of  the service sector.
Nils illegitimi carborundum

Jake

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #38 on: September 21, 2006, 08:17:21 pm »
Tomorrow, we finish cleaning 92 bedrooms plus some kitchens, toilets and showers, at Exeter University.

We started last Friday, and we let all the trades know that, we clean once and once only!!!

We know the Site Manager, and he has got agency labourers cleaning up after trades, he knows that there is no way we are going back to clear all the mess that has been left in  the already cleaned rooms.

Remember. you price for 1 clean, you do 1 clean..... unless you are being paid daywork!

Stand up for yourself, or you will be walked over!!!

                                  Regards...Jake Dillon..Westclean
Exeter, Devon

Gerard Grindley

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Re: Help Builders Clean
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2006, 08:23:00 pm »
Hi Tim Could you Please Email me a copy of your spread sheet we have been supplying builders cleans for a builder and now they are asking for different levels of cleans three and four weeks after the job has been completed

regards

Gerard