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heidi

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a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« on: August 16, 2006, 08:14:32 pm »
 :hi every one a would just like some advice a have worked as a domestic now for fifteen years and am interested cleaning end of tenant lets, squat cleaning but most of all crime scene cleaning does any one know how to go about this been looking in various sites on web but so far no luck

The Great One

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2006, 09:42:33 pm »
Hi

www.nationalfloodschool.co.uk

They won't have a course for a few months but register your interest with them as their speakers are from the US. Once they have enough interest they will hold another.

Regards

Martin 8)

mark bowditch

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2006, 09:59:08 pm »
Hi Heidi,
Welcome to the forum.
Its something I was considering when I start up my Pressure Washing business.
Have a look at the couple of links below.
http://people.howstuffworks.com/crime-scene-clean-up.htm

http://www/index.cgi?action=display&board=crimescenecleaning&thread=1153816540&page=1#1155629665

Also do a search on the forums.
Best of luck
Mark
Pressure Washing and Maintenance
http://www.grimeforce.co.uk

Cinders

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2006, 11:44:58 am »
Express cleaning do a course on trauma scene clean ups is this the same thing??? the link below was on the events page for a july course but might be worth taking a look

http://www.express-cleaning-supplies.co.uk/oos/trainingcourses/BPT2120706.html
If you pay peanuts you get a monkey!

DP

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2006, 11:02:53 pm »
Quote
Express cleaning do a course on trauma scene clean ups is this the same thing???

No nothing at all to do with it. I think a crime scene is without spilt blood isnt it?
Everyone seems normal untill you get to know them!

Cinders

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2006, 11:26:10 pm »
oops  :)
If you pay peanuts you get a monkey!

DP

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2006, 11:49:15 pm »
Cinders
What a really honest reply which by the way made me laugh, and at least deserves my apology for being sarcastic.  ;)

That just goes to show that it doesn’t have to be all blood and guts on here (pardon the pun) you could have come back with anything.
Everyone seems normal untill you get to know them!

Art

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2006, 12:11:20 am »
Isn't trauma clean the same as crime scene or have i missed something?

calmore

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2006, 08:57:04 am »
Did anyone see "Cutting Edge" a few weeks ago? It was all about "extreme" cleaners who go round cleaning up body fluids when someone dies. Fascinating programme.

Apparently, you can earn around £900 per body!
Calmore Carpet Cleaning-Southampton
www.calmore.com

Southern PAT Services
www.southernpatservices.com/

Cinders

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2006, 10:41:36 am »
Ha ha no worries DP...to me crime scene clean up would be traumatic enough to do so I thought they were the same thing! haha
 :D
If you pay peanuts you get a monkey!

Mr BSF

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2006, 11:05:59 am »
Isn't trauma clean the same as crime scene or have i missed something?

They are the same, but these terms usually cover a wide assortment of cleaning tasks, obviously the larger populated areas have a higher demand for this type of work, it can range from squatters wiping crap all over the walls of a flat/house, to a property that has been the scene of a fatal shooting.

The work is well paid but you could get a call at 3am in the morning to go and clean up sick from a police cell.

Please remember that if you are serious about this type of work a strong stomach is essential, also consider the psychological effects, ex fire-fighters, paramedics and police are the best people to carry out the extreme side of this work.

Also any person wanting to do this line of work must have hep b injections etc, the hep b from the first jab to blood test to see if it has worked is about 6 months.

Regards

BSF ;D

DP

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2006, 12:36:47 am »
LOL
I was being ironic, come on guys at least Cinders got it and she was the one who made the comment.

BSF bought up a very very prominent issue which should be raised. The psychological issue is actually much larger then you may think. The odd thing is that although you manage at the time quite well, it can/does have a profound effect latter on in years once you’ve stopped doing it. Of course its relevant to what you’ve seen, but its nothing to do with blood or body parts, that’s the easy bit.

BSF you forgot to mention the need for a very resiliant nose as well! Not sure that ex police fit the profile as I have seen loads throw up  ;)
Everyone seems normal untill you get to know them!

The Great One

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2006, 12:04:13 pm »
Hi

You would of course need a very strong nose and an even stronger state of mind...

At some point along the line in this work you will come across a child accident, murder, or a child dying in some horrific way. And you will / may be called in to scrape their remains, bits of brain (maybe not the actual body) off the road, floor, wall etc.

You and any staff will of course need to detach yourself from this somehow?

Of course we all see the money side of the business, but don't forget once you have taken the £500 2 day course you need to fit and equip your van with all the right equipment, which include bio suits, industrial wet vac, bloodkits, chemical kits, chemicals, blood/ chemical test kits, all the correct jabs, all the correct licences for proper disposal of contaminated waste to include blood/ body stained carpets, curtains, walls, furniture, clothing and human waste. This all must be disposed off at the proper facilities.

Then you need to be able to go back to your own family, knowing you have just scraped the remains of a 7 year old girl off the floor who may of died from an horrific trauma like a car accident or rape etc

This kind of work must be entered into with both eyes open to the worst case scenarios...

Regards

Martin 8)

John Kelly

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2006, 01:25:20 pm »
Martin, you do put it so bluntly. But hey this is what we do.
Anbody thinking of running this of a stand alone business would have to offer national coverage as there isn't the workload to operate locally. It can of course be added to an existing business and carried out when required.

Mr BSF

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2006, 12:02:11 am »
Not 2 sure about the blood/chemical test kits ??? or the £500 two day course.

But a drop or two of olbas oil in your face mask will combat the nasty smell/s.

need a cleaner

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2006, 12:17:09 am »
I dont know about any1 else,but for me the money side is very acttractive but its not a side of the business that i will be looking explore as somethings are just not worth it.
Just my 2cents

The Great One

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2006, 10:18:03 am »
Hi

At the National Flood School who run the course it is 2 days at £495 + Travel + accomodation + food etc.

Then you need to kit out your van with all the right equipment.

Olbas Oil is great stuff, not sure if it would cover up the smell of death though?

I have been thinking of this line of work myself and have been doing loads of research for about 3 months...

Regards

Martin 8)

Mr BSF

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2006, 08:05:45 pm »
Hi Martin,

the olbas oil does do the trick ;D I cant comment on how good the course/s is/are, it seems alot of money to me, the best way to learn the trade so to speak is to work for a company that carry's out this type of work, in my opinion you can't learn anything worth knowing from a classroom.

Although having said that the tutors/speakers will probably have been hands on at sometime and can let you know what to expect, this is the best way to learn, so disregard my first comment ;D

regards

BSF ;D 

The Great One

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2006, 10:25:18 am »
Hi Mate

I think the course is very intense with experienced Crime/Trama guys giving the lecture. Also the course gives you a certification.

But as you say there is nothing like hands on experience.

Regards

Martin 8)

DP

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Re: a am trying to find out how a get into crime scene cleaning
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2006, 12:18:43 am »
I don’t see any problem with people wanting to advance themselves or gain other skills if they can afford to do so.

If however the idea is to spend money to earn money and its important that you see a viable return for your investment then you need to be sure that you are spending it in the right place.

After all, you can train to be anything you like, even an astronaut, but what’s the likelihood of you ever working as one?

It doesn’t matter what you have heard or how much people tell you you can earn, unless you can find the work in this very very tiny market your not going to earn £squat!!

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Everyone seems normal untill you get to know them!