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jsm

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taking on staff - terms and conditions needed
« on: August 10, 2006, 10:19:11 am »
Hi all , just about to take someone on -  :o

 has any one got a '' contract of employment '' sort of letter that they give to their new workers ??
if so can have a peep at it - just to get some ideas .

email : johnmalone25@hotmail.com


thanks in advance

john



John Malone
JSM. Window & General Cleaning
(  North Wales  )
Giving homes a shine sicne 1989

one of the early gang of wfp er's ---- remember , when you cant see out - give JSM a shout

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Re: taking on staff - terms and conditions needed
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2006, 11:04:43 am »

  John,

  In same position and have seeked help from employment advisor, am awaiting
  his reply. Will let you know what he comes up with.

 Cheers

 Doug

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Re: taking on staff - terms and conditions needed
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2006, 11:12:37 am »

  Had a meeting with the employment advisor yesterday who represents
  company's in employment tribunals and advises company's on employment law.

  http://www.creideasach.co.uk/Home1.htm

  Not what I was looking to hear but this is the current law as it stands.

  You cannot take on someone on a self employed basis if his main income comes
  direct from yourself. If their main income is direct from your self he has to
  be taken on as a employer. This has been tightened up and will soon no longer
  exist.

  You have to take out employer liability if you take someone on, if you are
  caught without it then you will be fined.

  They are entitled to holiday pay from day one, 20 days pro rota which you can
  include public holdays.

  A contract must be issued after 2 months.

  They are eligible for a 20 min break if they work 6hrs.

  You have to give 1 wks notice in the first year if you no longer require their
  services.

  The contract he advised me to draw up due to the inflexible hours would be a
  zero hour contract. This means both parties are both flexible and hours are not
  fixed.

  With regards paying a person a percenatge on what they make it cannot be
  below the min wage.

  This is the current law as it stands but can change from day to day as the
  goverment are looking to change the holiday entitlement.

  It's up to yourselves whether you follow these guidelines but he showed a
  few cases that have gone through the industrial tribunal where someone was
  taken on as self employed. The fines were pretty high, too big for a small
  company like me. I've also seen a few cases on the internet as well.

  If you take on someone wrongly and you part ways there is always the chance
  that person will pursue it through ACAS. They don't hold any punches even if
  you claim you never knew about the employment law.

  The fines are way too big, so going to seriously think is it worth taking someone
  on but if do will definately abide by the rules.

  Hope this info helps you.

  Cheers

  Doug

ducky

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Re: taking on staff - terms and conditions needed
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2006, 11:34:12 am »
i am going to get my old boss to read that then sc :-X :-Xw him.thanks d.a ;D
if it cleans we will clean it

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Re: taking on staff - terms and conditions needed
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2006, 11:55:45 am »

 No probs, that's why I am looking into it to protect myself from guys like me.
 That's why I was paid Łk+ from my last employer and loads of threatening letters
  from big solicitors in the States.

  The info I have IBM would pay big time for it ;D ;D

  Doug

ducky

  • Posts: 600
Re: taking on staff - terms and conditions needed
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2006, 03:01:16 pm »
go get them  ;D
if it cleans we will clean it