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Stoots

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Are we about to be regulated
« on: Yesterday at 02:39:38 pm »
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-12-17/debates/D055A2C9-7E02-4741-A42E-962298B8AA16/WindowCleaningIndustryWorkplaceSafety

Wonder if we are about to be forced to buy compliant (no doubt more expensive) poles a that weigh a tonne

or made to complete a safety/training course ...

Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 02:44:40 pm »
We already need a licence up here anyway. Probably to do with training prisoners to become window cleaners in jail. One of them will be trying to sue the Gov for falling off a ladder. 

AuRavelling79

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Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 03:35:32 pm »
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-12-17/debates/D055A2C9-7E02-4741-A42E-962298B8AA16/WindowCleaningIndustryWorkplaceSafety

Wonder if we are about to be forced to buy compliant (no doubt more expensive) poles a that weigh a tonne

or made to complete a safety/training course ...

No we are not bgoing to be forced to buy compliant poles. The current guidance (pun attended) is to not put anything within 3 metres of a 33KV line. Electricity of that level can jump gaps.

Awareness and risk assessment are key.

If a mandatory training course came in (I don't see that either as mandatory training courses for ladders aren't a thing) then so be it.

One death or injury per year is too much. But it is incredibly low compared with ladders.
It's a game of three halves!

dazmond

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Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:33:56 pm »
The scary thing is the poor window cleaner that got electricuted didn't even touch the cable with his pole...... :o
price higher/work harder!

AuRavelling79

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Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 11:02:21 pm »
The scary thing is the poor window cleaner that got electricuted didn't even touch the cable with his pole...... :o

Because 33kv can jump. Especially in misty conditions.
It's a game of three halves!

Spruce

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Re: Are we about to be regulated
« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:48:24 am »
We have 2 reported deaths and one serious injury according to the report.

 Unfortunately, sad as they are, we aren't told what the circumstances are around the two window cleaners who died.   If it's one I remember reading about, he was using an aluminium pole around electric cables.

There was a thread on one of the forums recently regarding electric cables and window cleaners. There where many posters who didn't know the difference between telephone cables and electricity supply cables. There's part of the problem; a lack of knowledge.

However, while we need to prevent all injuries and deaths, I'm sure that many can be avoided with a properly self imposed risk and method statement as Malc has stated.  Who does that?

Obviously the injured window cleaner can't work again as a window cleaner, but I remember both him and his dad were going to focus on awareness and safety regarding pole manufacture.

Pushing stuff through parliament at that level is just going to make it more difficult for manufacturers and it's window cleaners who will be affected in the end.

Gardiner's insulate the base pole section against electrical shock. If they, and others, are legislated to give the shock protection to the second pole that fits into the base pole, what happens when that fibreglass layer wears off/or wears thin and the carbon shows through?  We experienced that wear pattern with the clx range.

I know this sounds harsh, but people who wave a pole around bare supply lines only have themselves to blame when accidents happen imho.

We have a few old houses with bare supply cables. I clean the fronts of those houses (not my lad) and go through a mental action plan before I start cleaning the upstairs bedroom windows every time we clean them.

Unfortunately there's seems to be this two fold attitude among window cleaners in our area of how much money do I earn cleaning this house and how quickly can I do it. 'Time is money' can mean that basic safety procedures are overlooked.
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)