[KS Cleaning]

Check out the price of some Renault traffic E-Techs.

One year old, hardly any miles, and only £15,000 plus vat.

One year old electric van is the way to go if you want a new vehicle with warranty that isn’t going to burst the bank.

Useless van to me, only the e custom is rated to tow over 2 tonne, and I need that for regular cherry picker towing.

Be great for those of you who don’t tow though. Although, doesn’t look as nice as an e custom.

Be interesting to see how towing affects range ?

I reckon it’ll hammer it, but I only use the cherry pickers locally

I had been thinking about this for people that tow caravans all over the place many ev cars can’t tow so will be interesting to see how this pans out .

Yeah, I mean in the ideal world, we’d have the freedom to choose ev, petrol or diesel. All are needed. The obsession with net zero is ludicrous.

No way I’d be getting an electric van if I was in a trade that did loads of miles, diesel is king.

For me, going an average of 20-25 miles a day, the EV van is a no brainer.

Not having to worry about dpf issues and all the other mechanical issues that go with using a diesel for short journeys is exactly what I want.

I’m also quite keen to have a van that defrosts in the morning before I get in the van. As well as preheating the cabin. All little things that just make life easier.

There's no issues with using diesel vehicles for short journeys. Ive never had a single issue and my van is 9 years old now.

There are issues with using diesel vehicles for short journeys, the DPF cokes up.

Maybe a blast up the motorway at high revs from time to time might help.

I was pointing out to Daz that there are known issues with driving short distances in diesel vehicles.
Yes that’s what I used to do when the warning message came up on the display, up to the dual carriageway, put my auto box into manual mode and drive at 60mph in high revs👍🏻

[zesty]

There can be loads of issues Daz, just google it. The DPF will block up if the DPF cycles don’t complete. It’s a very common issue.

[robert mitchell]

So that’s me done a weeks work with my E Custom. The van itself is quite brilliant, a pleasure to drive, very smooth and it glides nicely over the various road surfaces, in fact it’s such a comfortable ride that I now find it a drag to drive our X4M about town as it obviously has much stiffer suspension.

I don’t have a home charger installed yet so I’m relying on public chargers at the moment which is a bit of a pain. The van only charges to 90% ( I will need to look into this ) which gives a range of 160 miles, the reality is that of the predicted 160 miles I will actually get around 130 miles in the winter months. Not a problem as I don’t do a lot of miles.

The ratchet strapping of the flat tank isn’t ideal but it is the best solution at the moment, I have one  strap going over the top to pull it down to the floor and another going around it pulling it towards the bulkhead, it does feel solid but of course it isn’t crash tested, but then the Waterworks professionaly fitted system for EV’s won’t have been crash tested either?

I mentioned in another thread that the water sloshing was terrible in the flat tank, I have added 25 metres of 100mm perforated drainage pipe cut into shorter lengths, this has made a big difference.

All in all a very positive first week, the only negative so far being that there doesn’t seem to be a viable option of a bolted in tank/frame.

The waterworks systems are crash tested now .

[KS Cleaning]

So that’s me done a weeks work with my E Custom. The van itself is quite brilliant, a pleasure to drive, very smooth and it glides nicely over the various road surfaces, in fact it’s such a comfortable ride that I now find it a drag to drive our X4M about town as it obviously has much stiffer suspension.

I don’t have a home charger installed yet so I’m relying on public chargers at the moment which is a bit of a pain. The van only charges to 90% ( I will need to look into this ) which gives a range of 160 miles, the reality is that of the predicted 160 miles I will actually get around 130 miles in the winter months. Not a problem as I don’t do a lot of miles.

The ratchet strapping of the flat tank isn’t ideal but it is the best solution at the moment, I have one  strap going over the top to pull it down to the floor and another going around it pulling it towards the bulkhead, it does feel solid but of course it isn’t crash tested, but then the Waterworks professionaly fitted system for EV’s won’t have been crash tested either?

I mentioned in another thread that the water sloshing was terrible in the flat tank, I have added 25 metres of 100mm perforated drainage pipe cut into shorter lengths, this has made a big difference.

All in all a very positive first week, the only negative so far being that there doesn’t seem to be a viable option of a bolted in tank/frame.

The waterworks systems are crash tested now .

Are they crash tested in an EV? How do they secure them?

[zesty]

I wouldn’t worry KS.

Even a bolted down tank is gonna smash you to bits in a bad crash.

I had a crash in the ice back in 2016.  The only crash I’ve ever had since driving at 17. My tank was 3/4 full and an old man in a saloon slid straight into my near side, the speed was about 50mph when you comobine both vehicles colliding. My tank was absolutely fine.

Van was repaired and back on the road 2 months later. His car was a write off.

I think you need to be involved in a really bad crash/sudden stop to succumb to the tank flying through the bulkhead.

My tanks have never been bolted in.

[KS Cleaning]

I wouldn’t worry KS.

Even a bolted down tank is gonna smash you to bits in a bad crash.

I had a crash in the ice back in 2016.  The only crash I’ve ever had since driving at 17. My tank was 3/4 full and an old man in a saloon slid straight into my near side, the speed was about 50mph when you comobine both vehicles colliding. My tank was absolutely fine.

Van was repaired and back on the road 2 months later. His car was a write off.

I think you need to be involved in a really bad crash/sudden stop to succumb to the tank flying through the bulkhead.

My tanks have never been bolted in.

I’m not worried Zesty, more intrigued. Waterworks and Ionics ( who champion the use of crash tested systems ) have installed their systems into EV vans, but neither have said they are crash tested, just curious as to how they’ve secured them?

[zesty]

Fair play, I’ve no idea mate, who knows!

[Splash and dash]

I wouldn’t worry KS.

Even a bolted down tank is gonna smash you to bits in a bad crash.

I had a crash in the ice back in 2016.  The only crash I’ve ever had since driving at 17. My tank was 3/4 full and an old man in a saloon slid straight into my near side, the speed was about 50mph when you comobine both vehicles colliding. My tank was absolutely fine.

Van was repaired and back on the road 2 months later. His car was a write off.

I think you need to be involved in a really bad crash/sudden stop to succumb to the tank flying through the bulkhead.

My tanks have never been bolted in.

I’m not worried Zesty, more intrigued. Waterworks and Ionics ( who champion the use of crash tested systems ) have installed their systems into EV vans, but neither have said they are crash tested, just curious as to how they’ve secured them?

Give them a ring and ask ime sure they will be quite happy to explain if they are and how they are fitted especially if they think they will get a sale 😂

[robert mitchell]

So that’s me done a weeks work with my E Custom. The van itself is quite brilliant, a pleasure to drive, very smooth and it glides nicely over the various road surfaces, in fact it’s such a comfortable ride that I now find it a drag to drive our X4M about town as it obviously has much stiffer suspension.

I don’t have a home charger installed yet so I’m relying on public chargers at the moment which is a bit of a pain. The van only charges to 90% ( I will need to look into this ) which gives a range of 160 miles, the reality is that of the predicted 160 miles I will actually get around 130 miles in the winter months. Not a problem as I don’t do a lot of miles.

The ratchet strapping of the flat tank isn’t ideal but it is the best solution at the moment, I have one  strap going over the top to pull it down to the floor and another going around it pulling it towards the bulkhead, it does feel solid but of course it isn’t crash tested, but then the Waterworks professionaly fitted system for EV’s won’t have been crash tested either?

I mentioned in another thread that the water sloshing was terrible in the flat tank, I have added 25 metres of 100mm perforated drainage pipe cut into shorter lengths, this has made a big difference.

All in all a very positive first week, the only negative so far being that there doesn’t seem to be a viable option of a bolted in tank/frame.

The waterworks systems are crash tested now .

Are they crash tested in an EV? How do they secure them?

They are bolted through the floor (not chassis), the waterworks system has a panel that blows out and releases the water in big impact , meaning you will get wet but the tank wont move.

[KS Cleaning]

So that’s me done a weeks work with my E Custom. The van itself is quite brilliant, a pleasure to drive, very smooth and it glides nicely over the various road surfaces, in fact it’s such a comfortable ride that I now find it a drag to drive our X4M about town as it obviously has much stiffer suspension.

I don’t have a home charger installed yet so I’m relying on public chargers at the moment which is a bit of a pain. The van only charges to 90% ( I will need to look into this ) which gives a range of 160 miles, the reality is that of the predicted 160 miles I will actually get around 130 miles in the winter months. Not a problem as I don’t do a lot of miles.

The ratchet strapping of the flat tank isn’t ideal but it is the best solution at the moment, I have one  strap going over the top to pull it down to the floor and another going around it pulling it towards the bulkhead, it does feel solid but of course it isn’t crash tested, but then the Waterworks professionaly fitted system for EV’s won’t have been crash tested either?

I mentioned in another thread that the water sloshing was terrible in the flat tank, I have added 25 metres of 100mm perforated drainage pipe cut into shorter lengths, this has made a big difference.

All in all a very positive first week, the only negative so far being that there doesn’t seem to be a viable option of a bolted in tank/frame.

The waterworks systems are crash tested now .

Are they crash tested in an EV? How do they secure them?

They are bolted through the floor (not chassis), the waterworks system has a panel that blows out and releases the water in big impact , meaning you will get wet but the tank wont move.

You’re not meant to drill through the floor of an Electric van without dropping the battery pack which is a major job. Even then there might not be the required clearance between the floor and the replaced battery pack for the protruding bolt thread and spreader plate. I will give Ionics a phone and get a definitive answer as to how they secure the tank and if it’s been crash tested.

[zesty]

Another issue is screwing the electric hose reel down. It’ll have to be right by the rear doors in the e transit custom, as the battery doesn’t go that far back. What did you do KS?

[KS Cleaning]

Another issue is screwing the electric hose reel down. It’ll have to be right by the rear doors in the e transit custom, as the battery doesn’t go that far back. What did you do KS?

I used 18mm ply tight between the wheel arches and screwed the reel to that😉

[zesty]

And is the Ply glued to the floor, or screwed near the wheel arches?

[KS Cleaning]

And is the Ply glued to the floor, or screwed near the wheel arches?

The 18mm ply is a tight fit between the ply lined wheel arches, I have then used 4 ‘L’ brackets that connects the 18mm ply to the wheel arches.

[KS Cleaning]

Got a reply from Ionics regarding them fitting their systems to EV’s.
They have said at the moment they can’t fit to a Transit E Custom as the battery pack takes up most of the load area so it isn’t compatible. They do fit them to Vauxhall E Vivaro, Peugeot E  Expert, Citroen E Dispatch and Nissan ENV200.

[zesty]

And is the Ply glued to the floor, or screwed near the wheel arches?

The 18mm ply is a tight fit between the ply lined wheel arches, I have then used 4 ‘L’ brackets that connects the 18mm ply to the wheel arches.

Sounds and idea.

[dazmond]

Another issue is screwing the electric hose reel down. It’ll have to be right by the rear doors in the e transit custom, as the battery doesn’t go that far back. What did you do KS?

Just screw the reel down to a piece of plywood. That's what I do.👍

[zesty]

Another issue is screwing the electric hose reel down. It’ll have to be right by the rear doors in the e transit custom, as the battery doesn’t go that far back. What did you do KS?

Just screw the reel down to a piece of plywood. That's what I do.👍

Yep, that’s what I’ve done previously, but you need to make sure the plywood is secured to the van floor.

[dazmond]

Another issue is screwing the electric hose reel down. It’ll have to be right by the rear doors in the e transit custom, as the battery doesn’t go that far back. What did you do KS?

Just screw the reel down to a piece of plywood. That's what I do.👍

Yep, that’s what I’ve done previously, but you need to make sure the plywood is secured to the van floor.

No you don't. All you need to do is make sure its a thick,heavy piece and cut it so it fits snugly in between the wheel arches,cover it in black plastic (and staple it underneath).

Jobs a good un!🙂👍

[dazmond]

Like this.👍