[tlwcs]

The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....

Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

That comment is nearly as daft as you don’t need a van mounted system and I don’t need an electric reel that we’ve all lived through.
I’m 2 months electric and the running costs are 30% of what I was spending.
I’m happy with that and appreciate things  may change  but see sense, what on earth does that mean?

[zesty]

The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....

Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

The whole green agenda is nonsense.

However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.

I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.

For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.

Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’

I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning

Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.

That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.

I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.

[dazmond]

The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....

Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

That comment is nearly as daft as you don’t need a van mounted system and I don’t need an electric reel that we’ve all lived through.
I’m 2 months electric and the running costs are 30% of what I was spending.
I’m happy with that and appreciate things  may change  but see sense, what on earth does that mean?

That'll soon change when the government charges you per mile for road tax!😄👍

[dazmond]

The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....

Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

The whole green agenda is nonsense.

However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.

I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.

For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.

Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’

I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning

Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.

That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.

I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.

Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.

[zesty]

Pay per mile will eventually apply to all motorists, it won’t end at ev’s. Still cheaper to run an EV even with Pay per mile.

The imbeciles that vote labour need to give there heads a wobble.

[AuRavelling79]

The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....

Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

The whole green agenda is nonsense.

However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.

I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.

For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.

Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’

I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning

Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.

That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.

I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.

Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.

Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.

[dazmond]

The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....

Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

The whole green agenda is nonsense.

However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.

I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.

For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.

Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’

I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning

Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.

That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.

I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.

Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.

Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.

Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...

[CleanClear]

Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...

Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....

[Splash and dash]

Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...

Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....

It’s not an urban myth Wabasto themselves say not to use red diesel in them as it soots them up this is especially so in there fitment  into boats most boatyards will not work on them if they have been run on red , I don’t understand why red diesel does  this as its basically white diesel  with a dye in it , but that’s what the manufacturers say

[Splash and dash]

Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...

Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....

This is part of Wabasto s instructions to there fitters

[Spruce]

The tories said they would scrap the petrol/diesel  ban due to come into force in 2030 if they got back into power.....let's hope they get back in....

Shame the site doesn't have a dislike button.

Ive got no desire to go electric at all and hopefully the next government will see sense and abolish it.

The whole green agenda is nonsense.

However, we’ve had a brand new Kia EV3 since August and its hands down the best car we’ve ever owned.

I’m a massive, and I mean massive, petrol head, but there is a place for EV’s.

For our type of work, and EV van is pretty much perfect, unless you’re doing loads of motorway miles.

Disclaimer - I absolutely despise the green agenda and owning and ev is purely based on what we wanted rather than ‘saving the planet’

I like using a diesel heater for window cleaning which will be a pain if im forced to lease an electric van. I just can't go back to cold water cleaning

Well there’s nothing stopping you having a diesel heater? Sure, you’ll need a separate tank, but that’s no big deal.

That’s not a reason to dislike EVs.

I agree with you the net zero policies are absolutely ludicrous, we are systematically destroying our own country over it.

Having a separate diesel tank in the van will have to do but it's much easier/convenient to run a diesel heater in a diesel van.

Having a seperate diesel tank for your heater means you can run it on red diesel too. Win win.

If you are using a diesel air heater to heat your van, then you may use red diesel.

If you are heating water to only heat your van with radiators, then you can use red diesel.

If you are using your heater to heat water to clean your customer's windows, then you aren't allowed to use red diesel. You can't use red diesel for commercial purposes.

One of the garages in Stockton-on-Tees sells red diesel. You have a form to fill out with all your details declaring the intended use of the red diesel you are purchasing, completing it with a signed declaration for HMRC.

Leisure boats, such as canal boats, have to split their diesel fill up into heating and propulsion elements. Propulsion will account for 60% of the bill, taxed at the standard diesel tax rate, and the remaining 40% of the same diesel for heating at the lower tax rate.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reform-of-red-diesel-entitlements/reform-of-red-diesel-and-other-rebated-fuels-entitlement

[AuRavelling79]

Thanks for the clarification Spruce.

[Scottish Cleaning Service]

The way it is going, soon they will do away with red diesel but our food will cost more. The way the Gov is going for the farmers then i guess that will be the next step. I would do away with it and give the farmers a rebate on the amount of diesel they use. This red diesel compliance is a bit of a mine field. LPG for vehicles used to be half the price of petrol and now its 99.9p. The Gov needs money to pay for welfare and pensions so nothing is going to get cheaper, that's the reason I buy equipment for my business and hold on to it.

The 5p a litre on fuel is coming back in April so everything will go up and push up inflation a bit. After that there is not much the Gov can put up without getting folk angry. I believe the next step will be Vat heading for 25% like Sweden so the best thing we can do is buy any equipment that we need now. Someone was telling us about the old price of PF electric hosereel and what it cost now. I'm thinking of buying one as a spare in the future.

[CleanClear]

Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...

Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....

It’s not an urban myth Wabasto themselves say not to use red diesel in them as it soots them up this is especially so in there fitment  into boats most boatyards will not work on them if they have been run on red , I don’t understand why red diesel does  this as its basically white diesel  with a dye in it , but that’s what the manufacturers say

Webasto say do not use BS2869 which most people call heating oil.
Webasto say to use EN 590, which is available as "RED diesel " from loads of places.
https://www.beesleyfuels.co.uk                       for example, sell both. As do most fuel suppliers.

Maybe a moot point, as Spruce has pointed out, it doesn't look like its legal to use it anyway.

[Splash and dash]

Running diesel heaters on red diesel is not recommended at all. It cokes up the burner prematurely...

Urban Myth i'm afraid. Running something like that is exactly what red diesel is for.............. non taxable plant stuff, agriculture use etc....

It’s not an urban myth Wabasto themselves say not to use red diesel in them as it soots them up this is especially so in there fitment  into boats most boatyards will not work on them if they have been run on red , I don’t understand why red diesel does  this as its basically white diesel  with a dye in it , but that’s what the manufacturers say

Webasto say do not use BS2869 which most people call heating oil.
Webasto say to use EN 590, which is available as "RED diesel " from loads of places.
https://www.beesleyfuels.co.uk                       for example, sell both. As do most fuel suppliers.

Maybe a moot point, as Spruce has pointed out, it doesn't look like its legal to use it anyway.

You can get red diesel in EN 590 but it is still different to the  equivalent white diesel EN590 it doesn’t have many of the additives of white version

[dazmond]

I put the expensive supreme diesel in my van every so often(i did yesterday). I dont know whether it makes a difference to my engine or my diesel heater or whether its just a marketing con but it's supposed to have extra cleaning agents added.

[zesty]

I put the expensive supreme diesel in my van every so often(i did yesterday). I dont know whether it makes a difference to my engine or my diesel heater or whether its just a marketing con but it's supposed to have extra cleaning agents added.

I don’t think it makes any difference, my transit custom is on 145,000 and always been run on diesel from Tesco. The engine is still absolutely mint.