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zesty

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2025, 03:28:00 pm »
How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?

So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?

Also strapped down.

Could do, but that would take up a lot of room, I have loads of gear in the back of my van, the gutter vac, pressure washer, softwash machine and other bits and bobs are often on rotation.

KS Cleaning

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2025, 05:00:48 pm »
How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?

So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?

Also strapped down.
Another consideration I’m having, with the footprint/weight of the battery pack (around 400kg?)being pretty much where the footprint/weight of the tank is (in my case 550kg when full) will this affect the structural integrity of the van?

Splash and dash

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2025, 05:23:05 pm »
How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?

So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?

Also strapped down.
Another consideration I’m having, with the footprint/weight of the battery pack (around 400kg?)being pretty much where the footprint/weight of the tank is (in my case 550kg when full) will this affect the structural integrity of the van?

I very much doubt it would affect it as they are designed to carry weight but wouldn’t hurt to ask the dealer

zesty

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2025, 05:29:51 pm »
How about putting a metal frame around the tank but elongated to the rear and with a cross member that would sit 'behind' the wheel arches?

So looking from above the leading edge of the frame would extend to behind the door pillars and the tank leading edge against the bulkhead; then a long support each side of the tank with a cross member at the back of the tank and a final cross member at the rear behind but up against the wheel arches?

Also strapped down.
Another consideration I’m having, with the footprint/weight of the battery pack (around 400kg?)being pretty much where the footprint/weight of the tank is (in my case 550kg when full) will this affect the structural integrity of the van?

Defo no problem mate, no way would the chassis/van floor flex anywhere near enough to cause issues with the battery

KS Cleaning

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2025, 06:36:47 pm »
So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100

windowswashed

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2025, 08:36:02 pm »
With these ev vans are they restricted to 60mph on motorways the same as HGV's as they are over 3.5t?

KS Cleaning

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2025, 08:51:17 pm »
With these ev vans are they restricted to 60mph on motorways the same as HGV's as they are over 3.5t?
The  Transit Custom is 3.25t.

Splash and dash

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2025, 11:12:16 pm »
With these ev vans are they restricted to 60mph on motorways the same as HGV's as they are over 3.5t?

Motorways van speed limit is 70 it’s 60 on duel carriage ways and 50 on normal road , unless it states on the v5 it’s a window van or a motorhome

zesty

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 06:59:41 am »
So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100

I’d go flat mate, you might get a bit of sloshing, so stuff a load of flexible drainage hose in the tank, that’s what I did. Worked a treat.

Flat tanks are so much safer. Also spreads the weight a bit better.

KS Cleaning

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #49 on: Yesterday at 07:49:55 am »
So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100

I’d go flat mate, you might get a bit of sloshing, so stuff a load of flexible drainage hose in the tank, that’s what I did. Worked a treat.

Flat tanks are so much safer. Also spreads the weight a bit better.
Maybe I’m overthinking things but another problem with a flat tank is this, I usually fill my upright to about 425 litres, so there is plenty room at the top of the tank before switching off my submersible pump. I would need to fill a flat tank nearer the brim to avoid air locks towards the end of the day, this would mean there is an increased risk of overfilling the tank and flooding the van🤯

Splash and dash

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #50 on: Yesterday at 04:01:12 pm »
So looking at tanks now, my present tank is an Enduramaxx 500 litre upright and very happy with it, it’s very well made and there is no water sloshing at all, so if I’m buying a new tank I would prefer another Enduramaxx tank. Looking at the Enduramaxx 500 flat which would be better for ratchet strapping but they would want £180 to deliver it to Scotland😲. Just wondering if I should ratchet strap my current tank? dimensions are L1200 W500 H1100

I’d go flat mate, you might get a bit of sloshing, so stuff a load of flexible drainage hose in the tank, that’s what I did. Worked a treat.

Flat tanks are so much safer. Also spreads the weight a bit better.
Maybe I’m overthinking things but another problem with a flat tank is this, I usually fill my upright to about 425 litres, so there is plenty room at the top of the tank before switching off my submersible pump. I would need to fill a flat tank nearer the brim to avoid air locks towards the end of the day, this would mean there is an increased risk of overfilling the tank and flooding the van🤯


Airlocks is the main issue with flat tanks if you live in a hilly area and constantly parking the opposite way to the tank outlet you will have issues ,I had a flat tanks years ago had nothing but problems since having an upright tank never had any since

dd

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #51 on: Yesterday at 06:16:44 pm »
The 500l Grippa Tank is 710mm high. It is a low level tank but probably high enough to limit air lock probelms. Another option would be a custom made tank from someone like www.plasticwatertanks.co.uk

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #52 on: Yesterday at 06:53:14 pm »
You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍
Comfortably Numb!

Splash and dash

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #53 on: Yesterday at 07:08:57 pm »
You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍

That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #54 on: Yesterday at 07:17:42 pm »
You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍

That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.

Errrrrr.... Obviously! But it does prevent air ingress from the water movement when the level drops to a low point.
Comfortably Numb!

Splash and dash

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #55 on: Yesterday at 08:08:14 pm »
You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍

That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.

Errrrrr.... Obviously! But it does prevent air ingress from the water movement when the level drops to a low point.

But quite often you end up with half a tank of water you can’t use if parked on a hill, that was the main issue I had then you got air in the system and it was a pita when you did have water above the outlet again ,.

AuRavelling79

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #56 on: Yesterday at 09:49:47 pm »
I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.

It's a game of three halves!

Splash and dash

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #57 on: Yesterday at 09:54:17 pm »
I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.

You can’t necessarily do that though can you especially in a one way street etc if you live in a relatively flat area like Lincolnshire you would prob get away with it but you certainly can’t ware we live , I don’t know a single cleaner that has a flat tank as they won’t work here .

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #58 on: Yesterday at 09:57:06 pm »
You just need to fit a non-return valve on the tank outlet. Cost about a fiver and pretty much eliminates air ingress! I've been using one for years. 👍

That doesn’t work when the vans parked up hill and the water level is below the water outlet , I found this to be the main issues with a flat tank.

Errrrrr.... Obviously! But it does prevent air ingress from the water movement when the level drops to a low point.

But quite often you end up with half a tank of water you can’t use if parked on a hill, that was the main issue I had then you got air in the system and it was a pita when you did have water above the outlet again ,.

This is what a non-return valve will help with. You can't draw water when the level is below the outlet (obviously) but the NRV ensures that  air is not sucked into the outlet pipe- like it is without one.
Comfortably Numb!

AuRavelling79

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Re: EV Van Drivers, give us an update…
« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 11:20:14 pm »
I don't get the drama about a flat tank being a problem. I just park the van 'the right way' so the outlet is at the lowest point.

You can’t necessarily do that though can you especially in a one way street etc if you live in a relatively flat area like Lincolnshire you would prob get away with it but you certainly can’t ware we live , I don’t know a single cleaner that has a flat tank as they won’t work here .

My area has some flat areas and some pretty hilly bits. My outlet is on the nearside front so generally works with the camber of the road.

It's a game of three halves!