[zesty]

How’s  the range in these cold temps, how’s it all going?

[tlwcs]

My first month with a Toyota pro ace city ev
180 range, halve that for winter and weight so 90 miles maybe.
I average 40 miles a day.
Used to allow £50 a week for fuel and it averaged out at £36.
This is my cost for November.
So impressed.
If you can make it work, do it.

[zesty]

Not bad, but the range is pretty pants on the van front.

We have a Kia EV3 which has been flawless and well impressive. But being a car, and with an 82kwh battery, it’s plenty good enough on range in the winter. We only charge it once a week - £11.58 so far this month.

My concern with the vans is having to charge it almost every night in the winter which will shorten the battery life. I might be overthinking it though! Are you running it with the heating on etc?

Think I’ll aim for the e transit custom in spring next year.

[dd]

What size tank have you got in your proace city and how is it secured?

[tlwcs]

Not bad, but the range is pretty pants on the van front.

We have a Kia EV3 which has been flawless and well impressive. But being a car, and with an 82kwh battery, it’s plenty good enough on range in the winter. We only charge it once a week - £11.58 so far this month.

My concern with the vans is having to charge it almost every night in the winter which will shorten the battery life. I might be overthinking it though! Are you running it with the heating on etc?

Think I’ll aim for the e transit custom in spring next year.

Not bad! It’s a 80% saving on fuel. Although I’m sure our Rachel will make changes next week.
Mine was 18 months old with the 8 year battery warranty (10 years on the van with breakdown cover if serviced by Toyota) 35k plus vat new and I paid just under 15k. I got 11k for a 7 year old caddy.
I charge 4/5 times a week to 80% and I run in drive so everything works. The heater doesn’t work in eco mode.
It is a massive change as our vans are our income so I understand the overthinking.

[tlwcs]

What size tank have you got in your proace city and how is it secured?

350 and it’s strapped.

[windowswashed]

Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.

[dd]

Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.

Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.

Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.

[zesty]

Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.

Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.

Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.

Yes, maintenance is the biggest benefit, or lack of!

That’s the biggest pull factor for me. A van that has almost nothing to do wrong, starts every time, even in minus degrees (my transit custom struggles in winter to turn over, needs new glow plugs but comes with massive risks changing them, they often get stuck)

Fuel savings, obviously a no brainier.

[AuRavelling79]

Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.

Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.

Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.

Yep. A one year old EV with 7-9 years battery warranty makes a lot of sense.

My 12 plate diesel Hyundai on 86,000 from new will hopefully see me out as I wind down from 2.2k monthly turnover (3.5k last year) to £1200 over the next two years.

But if I had at least five years to go and my van needed replacing then I would definitely consider electric. A lot has changed in EV world over the last 18 months.

On the car front I run a 19 year old VW Touran on 153k! But considering electric to replace that.

One possible is (if alive and kicking) is in two years time - convert the van into a day camper/dog mobile (with a 210L Wyedale tank that can be slid in on a day a week for a few cream jobs) and replace car with electric.

We shall see.

[Always shining]

Vivaro e -
Has a 205 mile range. Driving normally when it’s dry and warm can get easily 180-190 and thats including lugging 500 litres in the morning.
Last couple of days it’s been minus 5. Hard to be exact but I would say it’s probably doing around 150. That’s with being frugal with the heater as that can have a big impact on the range. The heated seat doesn’t use anything off the range so have had that on full time.
I’m charging pretty much every night at home.
As long as you are using the charged up battery pretty much straight away then it’s fine to keep charging it up to 80/100%. Charge it to what you need. I don’t even think about anymore.
There’s an 8 year /100,000 mile warranty on the battery so that to me shows confidence by the manufacturers. I may be wrong only time will tell.
So far then I’ve done just over 5000 miles in this van and it’s been faultless.
I do 80-90 miles a day and it’s costing me less than a fiver.
Drives really nice. Pulls the weight easily.
And an added bonus is using the cab pre-conditioning in the morning. Totally de-iced and toasty warm when you get in it.
If you can charge at home and do less than 100 miles a day then it really is a no brainer.
There is of course a caveat. Will the extra charge of 3p per mile for ev drivers come in?
If it doesn’t then that has to be factored in.
Won’t make too much difference to me to be honest.
Any questions feel free

[Always shining]

Correction - If it ‘does’ come in

[tlwcs]

Correction - If it ‘does’ come in

3 p a mile at 10,000 is £300 a year. Still well in.
I think she will make the road fund license £1,000 as it will be easier for them to manage.

[dd]

Depreciation values and second hand ownership running costs would put me off. Thankfully I'm semi retired and won't need to worry about EV's going forward in my lifetime.

Depreciation is a positive if you buy a used ev.

Also in theory there is less to go wrong, no dpf and egr valves or add blu to worry about.

Yes, maintenance is the biggest benefit, or lack of!

That’s the biggest pull factor for me. A van that has almost nothing to do wrong, starts every time, even in minus degrees (my transit custom struggles in winter to turn over, needs new glow plugs but comes with massive risks changing them, they often get stuck)

Fuel savings, obviously a no brainier.

Last time I had glow plugs changed on 20 year old dispatch the garage sprayed one of the plugs (with some sort of anti corrosive spray to free it up), left it overnight and was able to safely remove it in the morning.