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RPCCS

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Water meter
« on: May 13, 2025, 05:27:16 pm »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.
Cheers Rich

Bungle

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2025, 07:15:04 pm »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Just had my 6 monthly water bill. £182. Bargain. I produce about 1500 litres a week. Plus I have an occasional bath 😃
We look at them, they look through them.

dazmond

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2025, 07:32:06 pm »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Just had my 6 monthly water bill. £182. Bargain. I produce about 1500 litres a week. Plus I have an occasional bath 😃

I guess your NOT on a water meter then!
price higher/work harder!

windowswashed

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2025, 07:41:15 pm »
My water bill is £145 per month times ten months, it was previously £105. Works out the same costs to go on a meter using resin plus the hassle of changing resin if I give up R/O so for now will have to bite the bullet and put up with it.

Be £100 quid a month better off on a meter when I give up window cleaning

RPCCS

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2025, 07:49:06 pm »
My water bill is £145 per month times ten months, it was previously £105. Works out the same costs to go on a meter using resin plus the hassle of changing resin if I give up R/O so for now will have to bite the bullet and put up with it.

Be £100 quid a month better off on a meter when I give up window cleaning
Hells bells u hope mine doesn’t cost that much, can you claim part of it about the tax you pay?
Cheers Rich

Spruce

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2025, 06:15:56 am »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Personally, I think you need to enlist the help of someone who can understand your water setup before you proceed further with this at a water authority level. This can be very complicated.

If you aren't on a water metre, then you can't claim water usage according to the tax man. You are going to pay the same a month for water no matter how much you use or don't use.  Don't phone them as they will want to put you on a water meter.

If you are on a water meter then this is another story.

Your water bill has 2 elements, the amount of water you use and a sewage element for processing sewage. You need to speak to your local water authority and ask them if they have a procedure to follow regarding the sewage element of your water bill when using an r/o.

I approached Northumberland Water many years ago and they told me that as I was returning the waste water to the drain, they couldn't give me a rebate on the sewage element of the water I used.

However, if you are on a meter you could put a second water meter on your pipework to your r/o and claim that against tax without involving your local water board. As a simple example, if your house used 20,000 liters a month and your r/o meter showed your r/o used 10,000, then you could claim half your bill against tax. But you will need to keep a detailed record of each claim.

If your waste water from your r/o went to a soak away rather than the drain, then the local water authority may refund the sewage element of the water bill your r/o uses. You will need to give them monthly r/o water meter readings so they can adjust your bill if this is what they agree to.

This sewage element of your water bill is a minefield. After all, if you water your garden, that water isn't going back to the sewer, but you still have to pay the sewage element of your water bill for it. Then the pure you produce is being taken away, so that's not going down the sewage drain either.


Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Roy Harding

  • Posts: 1986
Re: Water meter
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2025, 07:17:39 am »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

You can claim part of this for water usage against tax.

RPCCS

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2025, 10:47:09 am »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

You can claim part of this for water usage against tax.
Thank you will see about a second meter .
Cheers Rich

Bungle

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2025, 01:31:38 pm »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Just had my 6 monthly water bill. £182. Bargain. I produce about 1500 litres a week. Plus I have an occasional bath 😃

I guess your NOT on a water meter then!

I am on one. 12 houses in the close. One point where all the meters are. I've been here since September. This is my second bill. First was something like £34. Maybe they've got the meters connected to the wrong houses 😂
We look at them, they look through them.

NBwcs

  • Posts: 973
Re: Water meter
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2025, 02:17:58 pm »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Personally, I think you need to enlist the help of someone who can understand your water setup before you proceed further with this at a water authority level. This can be very complicated.

If you aren't on a water metre, then you can't claim water usage according to the tax man. You are going to pay the same a month for water no matter how much you use or don't use.  Don't phone them as they will want to put you on a water meter.

If you are on a water meter then this is another story.

Your water bill has 2 elements, the amount of water you use and a sewage element for processing sewage. You need to speak to your local water authority and ask them if they have a procedure to follow regarding the sewage element of your water bill when using an r/o.

I approached Northumberland Water many years ago and they told me that as I was returning the waste water to the drain, they couldn't give me a rebate on the sewage element of the water I used.

However, if you are on a meter you could put a second water meter on your pipework to your r/o and claim that against tax without involving your local water board. As a simple example, if your house used 20,000 liters a month and your r/o meter showed your r/o used 10,000, then you could claim half your bill against tax. But you will need to keep a detailed record of each claim.

If your waste water from your r/o went to a soak away rather than the drain, then the local water authority may refund the sewage element of the water bill your r/o uses. You will need to give them monthly r/o water meter readings so they can adjust your bill if this is what they agree to.

This sewage element of your water bill is a minefield. After all, if you water your garden, that water isn't going back to the sewer, but you still have to pay the sewage element of your water bill for it. Then the pure you produce is being taken away, so that's not going down the sewage drain either.


There's no consistency with the taxman. I'm on a rv rather than a meter but can't  claim for my water because as you say, I'm paying the same amount no matter how much I use. So you would think we can't claim for our phones then as I bet we're all on a fixed rate contract these days rather than pay as you go so similarly pay the same no matter how much you use the phone.

dazmond

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2025, 07:18:06 pm »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Personally, I think you need to enlist the help of someone who can understand your water setup before you proceed further with this at a water authority level. This can be very complicated.

If you aren't on a water metre, then you can't claim water usage according to the tax man. You are going to pay the same a month for water no matter how much you use or don't use.  Don't phone them as they will want to put you on a water meter.

If you are on a water meter then this is another story.

Your water bill has 2 elements, the amount of water you use and a sewage element for processing sewage. You need to speak to your local water authority and ask them if they have a procedure to follow regarding the sewage element of your water bill when using an r/o.

I approached Northumberland Water many years ago and they told me that as I was returning the waste water to the drain, they couldn't give me a rebate on the sewage element of the water I used.

However, if you are on a meter you could put a second water meter on your pipework to your r/o and claim that against tax without involving your local water board. As a simple example, if your house used 20,000 liters a month and your r/o meter showed your r/o used 10,000, then you could claim half your bill against tax. But you will need to keep a detailed record of each claim.

If your waste water from your r/o went to a soak away rather than the drain, then the local water authority may refund the sewage element of the water bill your r/o uses. You will need to give them monthly r/o water meter readings so they can adjust your bill if this is what they agree to.

This sewage element of your water bill is a minefield. After all, if you water your garden, that water isn't going back to the sewer, but you still have to pay the sewage element of your water bill for it. Then the pure you produce is being taken away, so that's not going down the sewage drain either.


There's no consistency with the taxman. I'm on a rv rather than a meter but can't  claim for my water because as you say, I'm paying the same amount no matter how much I use. So you would think we can't claim for our phones then as I bet we're all on a fixed rate contract these days rather than pay as you go so similarly pay the same no matter how much you use the phone.

 I can't claim a portion of my water bill anymore as I'm not on a water meter at my new home (which I'm glad about actual because I use an RO now)

I always claim half my monthly phone bill. It's £20 a month so I put £10 per month as expenses as I use my phone a lot for work.
price higher/work harder!

Splash and dash

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2025, 11:31:17 pm »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Personally, I think you need to enlist the help of someone who can understand your water setup before you proceed further with this at a water authority level. This can be very complicated.

If you aren't on a water metre, then you can't claim water usage according to the tax man. You are going to pay the same a month for water no matter how much you use or don't use.  Don't phone them as they will want to put you on a water meter.

If you are on a water meter then this is another story.

Your water bill has 2 elements, the amount of water you use and a sewage element for processing sewage. You need to speak to your local water authority and ask them if they have a procedure to follow regarding the sewage element of your water bill when using an r/o.

I approached Northumberland Water many years ago and they told me that as I was returning the waste water to the drain, they couldn't give me a rebate on the sewage element of the water I used.

However, if you are on a meter you could put a second water meter on your pipework to your r/o and claim that against tax without involving your local water board. As a simple example, if your house used 20,000 liters a month and your r/o meter showed your r/o used 10,000, then you could claim half your bill against tax. But you will need to keep a detailed record of each claim.

If your waste water from your r/o went to a soak away rather than the drain, then the local water authority may refund the sewage element of the water bill your r/o uses. You will need to give them monthly r/o water meter readings so they can adjust your bill if this is what they agree to.

This sewage element of your water bill is a minefield. After all, if you water your garden, that water isn't going back to the sewer, but you still have to pay the sewage element of your water bill for it. Then the pure you produce is being taken away, so that's not going down the sewage drain either.


There's no consistency with the taxman. I'm on a rv rather than a meter but can't  claim for my water because as you say, I'm paying the same amount no matter how much I use. So you would think we can't claim for our phones then as I bet we're all on a fixed rate contract these days rather than pay as you go so similarly pay the same no matter how much you use the phone.

 I can't claim a portion of my water bill anymore as I'm not on a water meter at my new home (which I'm glad about actual because I use an RO now)

I always claim half my monthly phone bill. It's £20 a month so I put £10 per month as expenses as I use my phone a lot for work.


Have a business  phone contract it’s 100% claimable

Spruce

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2025, 07:52:07 am »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Personally, I think you need to enlist the help of someone who can understand your water setup before you proceed further with this at a water authority level. This can be very complicated.

If you aren't on a water metre, then you can't claim water usage according to the tax man. You are going to pay the same a month for water no matter how much you use or don't use.  Don't phone them as they will want to put you on a water meter.

If you are on a water meter then this is another story.

Your water bill has 2 elements, the amount of water you use and a sewage element for processing sewage. You need to speak to your local water authority and ask them if they have a procedure to follow regarding the sewage element of your water bill when using an r/o.

I approached Northumberland Water many years ago and they told me that as I was returning the waste water to the drain, they couldn't give me a rebate on the sewage element of the water I used.

However, if you are on a meter you could put a second water meter on your pipework to your r/o and claim that against tax without involving your local water board. As a simple example, if your house used 20,000 liters a month and your r/o meter showed your r/o used 10,000, then you could claim half your bill against tax. But you will need to keep a detailed record of each claim.

If your waste water from your r/o went to a soak away rather than the drain, then the local water authority may refund the sewage element of the water bill your r/o uses. You will need to give them monthly r/o water meter readings so they can adjust your bill if this is what they agree to.

This sewage element of your water bill is a minefield. After all, if you water your garden, that water isn't going back to the sewer, but you still have to pay the sewage element of your water bill for it. Then the pure you produce is being taken away, so that's not going down the sewage drain either.


There's no consistency with the taxman. I'm on a rv rather than a meter but can't  claim for my water because as you say, I'm paying the same amount no matter how much I use. So you would think we can't claim for our phones then as I bet we're all on a fixed rate contract these days rather than pay as you go so similarly pay the same no matter how much you use the phone.

It's called self assessment. The tax man wants us to assess our own business so as to apportion the business element of an expense.

But as we have said before many times, if we are investigated, there is every possibility the tax man won't agree with our assessment.

Before I started window cleaning in earnest, I made an appointment with the tax man to discuss what I could claim for, what I couldn't claim for and how to apportion those claims between business and private.

With regard to water usage, I was told I couldn't claim anything as I wasn't on a meter.

I was also told I couldn't claim a clothing allowance as I had to wear clothes whether I was window cleaning or doing something else. Nothing was mentioned about claiming logo embossed clothing.

The same with shoes. Nothing was said about claiming  for steel capped shoes.

These are all things you learn as you go along.

If we buy a round, we can't claim that cost against tax, but if we sell it for more than we pay for it at a later date, then we have to pay tax on that. But if we sell it for less, then that 'loss' is for our account.

I now have a phone contact which I didn't have before.  As with everything else, I divide my monthly bill into a business and private element by percentage. I don't want to carry 2 phones around. I'll end up loosing one of them. 😅

Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

Spruce

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2025, 05:03:30 am »
Does anyone get charged alot for using their water for reach and wash pole system?
If so can a percentage of it get discount from  your annual payment from tax ? Our monthly payment to water company local has increased since I started work again in October by £20 per month.

Just had my 6 monthly water bill. £182. Bargain. I produce about 1500 litres a week. Plus I have an occasional bath 😃

I guess your NOT on a water meter then!

I am on one. 12 houses in the close. One point where all the meters are. I've been here since September. This is my second bill. First was something like £34. Maybe they've got the meters connected to the wrong houses 😂

If you volunteered to fit a water meter in our area, you had a year to decide if you wanted it or not. It was a kind of cooling off period. If you then choose to not have meter read bills in that year, you had to inform the water board and they put you back on the old tariff. But if the house was sold then  meter read bills would apply to the new owners .

So for the first year our neighbours got estimated bills which were less than half of what they were paying previously. I'm our cul-de-sac everybody was happy they went on a meter. After a year the meter was read and the adjusted bill meant they were no better off, even although they also employed water saving devices, eg., water butts, etc
Success is 1% inspiration, 98% perspiration and 2% attention to detail!

The older I get, the better I was ;)

RPCCS

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Re: Water meter
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2025, 10:15:46 pm »
I wasn’t given the choice of water meter or standard charge . It’s a brand new house about  2 years old now.
Cheers Rich