[Scottish Cleaning Service]

My heater was on all morning and in the afternoon I went to clean a wood merchants massive sign. It was open so I didn't want to use hypo and just went with the hot water. Guys were saying that will take ages because it was covered in alga. I think I took 15 minutes and no one could believe how quick I did it. That's the benefit of high temperature pure it doesn't take much scrubbing. Even if you don't want to run it everyday its handy to have on first cleans.

[NBwcs]

My heater was on all morning and in the afternoon I went to clean a wood merchants massive sign. It was open so I didn't want to use hypo and just went with the hot water. Guys were saying that will take ages because it was covered in alga. I think I took 15 minutes and no one could believe how quick I did it. That's the benefit of high temperature pure it doesn't take much scrubbing. Even if you don't want to run it everyday its handy to have on first cleans.

So is spending 2 minutes spraying virisol on  and  achieving the  same result only without a 5k spend on a  heater plus on going running costs. But its your money, spend it how you like, I prefer to spend it on non work things.

[dazmond]

I ran my heater for half hour this morning and checked temperature(coiled hose)and it was reading just over 59c. Too hot to leave my hand under....

I've not fired it up for 12 days as I've been away. The smaller heaters probably won't get as hot and will lose a lot of heat in winter with hose out resulting in a less than satisfactory 'brush end' temperature.

[Tam1872]

I ran my heater for half hour this morning and checked temperature(coiled hose)and it was reading just over 59c. Too hot to leave my hand under....

I've not fired it up for 12 days as I've been away. The smaller heaters probably won't get as hot and will lose a lot of heat in winter with hose out resulting in a less than satisfactory 'brush end' temperature.

The immersion heater keeps the hose warm etc in the winter so it heats your hands when moving it etc, tbh if it's absolutely freezing I'm not going out anyway, with or without hot water, I'm not loaded, but I've enough there which means me not going out in freezing conditions doesn't effect my life style money wise.

If it speeded things up and even managed to get you doing another £50 a week worth of work then I'd say it's a no brainer. For monthly domestic cleans it's not any faster.

For people who do commercial contracts on a 6 monthly basis etc, I think hot would probably shave some time from they kind of cleans.  And although there probably wouldn't be to much a difference in time, if you do alot of that type of work then all of it added up over the year would add up to quite a bit.

[the king]

i think this system will be more for the people who dont need hot water just more of a stopping the water freezing during winter and having soft hoses both are a bonus to be fair but spending that bit extra on a 9 kw will give the option for piping hot water when needed , i run mine on warm setting most of the time only use the hot setting when needed thats maby 30)% of my work

[tlwcs]

A month in and it’s still not fitted.
I use a couple of mechanics and the one who said he could do it, is suddenly becoming difficult to pin down with a date. The other guy is a better mechanic but always stacked out with work. I’m not sure he’d take it on. He will MOT the  car in a couple of weeks, I’ll ask him then.

I drive a caddy with a 350 tank with a waterworks electric reel so to fit it where I want it may mean dropping the fuel tank.
I need the expertise of a mechanic to route the exhaust. 
While there is no immediate rush, it ain’t quite plug and play as advertised.
Tony

[the king]

i spoke to my mechanic and he said he could take my heater out but not install in in the new van i ended up going back with stream line but they charge a fair wack

[robert mitchell]

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-pro-90-diesel-12v-water-heater-with-universal-fitting-kit-9023075a9024620a/?srsltid=AfmBOorqRPsDEmC0inxqzKZq47OsiTfp8OXxt-V1osEoYbh0TnkfSd_Z

Could you not just buy that and fit it yourself?.

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-pro-90-diesel-12v-window-cleaning-hot-water-heater-kit-pro902platenomix/

Yes , the above link includes everything you need except a 10 litre header tank for the water circuit . They are actually pretty simple to wire up and plumb in . going into van diesel tank is pretty easy on some older vans but a bit more tricky on new ones . A seperate tank means you could use heating oil or red diesel .

[Spruce]

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-pro-90-diesel-12v-water-heater-with-universal-fitting-kit-9023075a9024620a/?srsltid=AfmBOorqRPsDEmC0inxqzKZq47OsiTfp8OXxt-V1osEoYbh0TnkfSd_Z

Could you not just buy that and fit it yourself?.

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-pro-90-diesel-12v-window-cleaning-hot-water-heater-kit-pro902platenomix/

Yes , the above link includes everything you need except a 10 litre header tank for the water circuit . They are actually pretty simple to wire up and plumb in . going into van diesel tank is pretty easy on some older vans but a bit more tricky on new ones.  A  seperate tank means you could use heating oil or red diesel .

That was the case, but since April 2022, not any more. If you are using diesel to heat your van, then you can use red diesel or heating oil. If you are using it to heat water for window cleaning, then diesel is being used commercially and needs to be road or white diesel.

[Scottish Cleaning Service]

I have found that fitting these heaters is a specialist job, even then they get things wrong. Not many people out there who do this job. That's the reason I drove down to Cambridge to let Grippa do it. Took a week and plenty of teething problems. Now, 9Kw heater is running like a dream and get it serviced every 3 years.

Not a thing that can be done on the cheap, I have found out.

[robert mitchell]

I have found that fitting these heaters is a specialist job, even then they get things wrong. Not many people out there who do this job. That's the reason I drove down to Cambridge to let Grippa do it. Took a week and plenty of teething problems. Now, 9Kw heater is running like a dream and get it serviced every 3 years.

Not a thing that can be done on the cheap, I have found out.

Its not that difficult really , the only difficult bit is plumbing into the diesel tank on modern vans , on old vans you could just tap into the return fuel line.
Servicing them isnt that ndifficult either , just a little fiddly .........parts are crazy expensive for what they are though .

[robert mitchell]

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-pro-90-diesel-12v-water-heater-with-universal-fitting-kit-9023075a9024620a/?srsltid=AfmBOorqRPsDEmC0inxqzKZq47OsiTfp8OXxt-V1osEoYbh0TnkfSd_Z

Could you not just buy that and fit it yourself?.

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-pro-90-diesel-12v-window-cleaning-hot-water-heater-kit-pro902platenomix/

Yes , the above link includes everything you need except a 10 litre header tank for the water circuit . They are actually pretty simple to wire up and plumb in . going into van diesel tank is pretty easy on some older vans but a bit more tricky on new ones.  A  seperate tank means you could use heating oil or red diesel .

That was the case, but since April 2022, not any more. If you are using diesel to heat your van, then you can use red diesel or heating oil. If you are using it to heat water for window cleaning, then diesel is being used commercially and needs to be road or white diesel.

Cheers  Spruce , i didnt know that had changed.

[the king]

streamline say there is nothing to service on these heaters just replace bits when needed

[Scottish Cleaning Service]

streamline say there is nothing to service on these heaters just replace bits when needed

Glow plug and grating. One of the guy's on the other forum didn't get his serviced for 6 years and it burnt out. He got a company to repair it and it cost the same as a new one. After it was up and running he said he would have been better just replacing with a new one and having the warranty.

I don't want to fall out with these companies that service them because I end up chasing my tail trying to find another company.

[robert mitchell]

streamline say there is nothing to service on these heaters just replace bits when needed

The service is usually replacing the glow pin and burner , these are the parts that get coked up eventually.

[robert mitchell]

streamline say there is nothing to service on these heaters just replace bits when needed

Glow plug and grating. One of the guy's on the other forum didn't get his serviced for 6 years and it burnt out. He got a company to repair it and it cost the same as a new one. After it was up and running he said he would have been better just replacing with a new one and having the warranty.

I don't want to fall out with these companies that service them because I end up chasing my tail trying to find another company.

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-90st-12v-service-kit/

The service kit costs £411 , less than a third of the cost of a new heater unit , i usually get about 5-6 years before needing to service it but it depends how you use the heater .  Constant cycling on and off causes it to coke up much quicker.

[Splash and dash]

streamline say there is nothing to service on these heaters just replace bits when needed

Glow plug and grating. One of the guy's on the other forum didn't get his serviced for 6 years and it burnt out. He got a company to repair it and it cost the same as a new one. After it was up and running he said he would have been better just replacing with a new one and having the warranty.

I don't want to fall out with these companies that service them because I end up chasing my tail trying to find another company.

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-90st-12v-service-kit/

The service kit costs £411 , less than a third of the cost of a new heater unit , i usually get about 5-6 years before needing to service it but it depends how you use the heater .  Constant cycling on and off causes it to coke up much quicker.

We deal with butler technique  if you add labour costs though to replace these parts the bill will be £900-1200 depending ware you take it , I can get a complete new thermo 90 including fuel pump for £1400 including the VAT , . so depending on your skill set at doing it yourself it’s almost the same price to fit a new unit ,they are simple to replace like for like

[Scottish Cleaning Service]

streamline say there is nothing to service on these heaters just replace bits when needed

Glow plug and grating. One of the guy's on the other forum didn't get his serviced for 6 years and it burnt out. He got a company to repair it and it cost the same as a new one. After it was up and running he said he would have been better just replacing with a new one and having the warranty.

I don't want to fall out with these companies that service them because I end up chasing my tail trying to find another company.

https://pbautoelectrics.co.uk/shop/webasto-thermo-90st-12v-service-kit/

The service kit costs £411 , less than a third of the cost of a new heater unit , i usually get about 5-6 years before needing to service it but it depends how you use the heater .  Constant cycling on and off causes it to coke up much quicker.

We deal with butler technique  if you add labour costs though to replace these parts the bill will be £900-1200 depending ware you take it , I can get a complete new thermo 90 including fuel pump for £1400 including the VAT , . so depending on your skill set at doing it yourself it’s almost the same price to fit a new unit ,they are simple to replace like for like

I was thinking of buying another one and just swapping it over and then servicing the old one. Might do that in the future.

[anderclean]

I'd be interested to try one of these systems out - but wouldn't have a clue about installing it!

Is there anyone known of in Essex or Suffolk who would be able to do this ?

Thanks

[tlwcs]

I'd be interested to try one of these systems out - but wouldn't have a clue about installing it!

Is there anyone known of in Essex or Suffolk who would be able to do this ?

Thanks

There is literally nothing to install apart from the exhaust.
I have just stripped my caddy out as I’m getting an electric Toyota pro ace Friday. Sadly it’s too late to show you how it was installed. But can when it’s re installed.

I’m off work after my second hip was replaced on 17/09, the van arrives Friday and I’ll have 3 weeks to refit.
I used a mobile mechanic who drilled a hole in the panel just behind the wheel arch and through the bottom, with a couple of twists it was fitted where the heat from it would cause any damage. The cabinet itself was then ratcheted down using the manufactures tie down points. The only negative that was the cabinet door opened the wrong way, but manageable
I gave up an immersion heater for this and it’s far better.
It’s not the raging heat of the 9kw users bang on about but I have used it now for 3 months and can see, even it the heat we’ve had, I can see the warmth is showing on the glass. I’ve also had 2 customers ask if I’m using hot water.
I do have to manage it, like everything else in my business. I fitted a return to tank valve so when the is univalve used the heater keeps working and returns to the tank. The more  water used as the day goes on and the hose is dead ended, the water in the tank gets hotter and hotter.
After each job I have I fit the female pole hose Rectus 21 fitting onto a male Rectus than I fitted into the tank lid. This time between jobs or for an hour before I start  work the hot water is being recycled through the hose reel as well.
Costing me £15 a week in diesel over £10 a night leccy.
I also bought a better batter to run this and my electric reel
It ain’t perfect but I think it’s well worth the money providing it has some longevity.
Hope this helps.
Just to add, I cleaned a school in late August, full 100 meters laid out, no preheat and it took ages to show on the glass, warm the hose.