[tlwcs]

 For those that don’t follow him he has reviewed a hotbox at a reasonable cost.
Worth a look to those considering hot water or a move away from an immersion element for hot on demand.
Tony

[Scottish Cleaning Service]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQQvVYoJ1vA

[Simon Trapani]

Looks great & a much more realistic price.

I’d be interested to hear what others think, especially Spruce.

[SB Cleaning]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

[֍Winp®oClean֍]

Is this the same squeaky clean Dave who said stainless steel springs didn't work in univalves? As they were....... Um.... Not springy enough🤔🤣🤣🤣

Stainless steel springs are just as 'springy' as the cheap, poor quality springs that come as standard, it's just that they last 10 times longer!! Makes you wonder who he's working for 🤔😉

[tlwcs]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

He shows it running at 55*. I currently use an immersion but have taken a punt on this for the money.
The company only has one review, and that is poor so I’ve wiped it on a credit card so I have some protection if it’s pants.
Dave is normally quite good though.

[The Jester of Wibbly]

To be fair, I know Dave, and he is a fantastic chap and completely honest in what he does. 

[SB Cleaning]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

He shows it running at 55*. I currently use an immersion but have taken a punt on this for the money.
The company only has one review, and that is poor so I’ve wiped it on a credit card so I have some protection if it’s pants.
Dave is normally quite good though.

To be fair i turned it off as soon as he said 5kw

[NBwcs]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

Genuine question... how hot does it need to get then?

I still struggle with being convinced hot water is faster on routine maintenance cleans. Were all creatures of habit and work to our own default speed, it would be  hard to break that habit after all these years. 1st cleans and facias, yeah, i can get that but as an established wc who rarely does facias these days and lets face it, not all 1st cleans are that dirty, plus an additional £25 a week plus initial outlay to recoup....   Squeaky says it will pay for itself over winter yet there seems to be an increasing number of hot water users on here who wont go out when its freezing!!! why is that? Genuine question again, are they scared of breaking a window given temperature extremes of water against freezing glass? Seems bizarre that they don't when this is a perfect opportunity to work when us cold water boys cant. Im definitely not  knocking hot water users and at this price for the heater itself then it certainly starts to warrant a further look, but im still yet to see a convincing argument for it.

Also, whilst i have a lot of time for Squeaky, telling viewers he gets a commission on sales for it through his link sort of nullifies his impartiality.

[Scottish Cleaning Service]

I heard Webasto discontinued their 5.2kw heaters and they seem to be refurbished Webasto Thermo Top C units. Only the brand new units come with a 3 year warranty so well worth finding out before one buys. I've had mine (9kw) for over 5 years now and still going strong so they seem to be bomb proof.

[zesty]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

Genuine question... how hot does it need to get then?

I still struggle with being convinced hot water is faster on routine maintenance cleans. Were all creatures of habit and work to our own default speed, it would be  hard to break that habit after all these years. 1st cleans and facias, yeah, i can get that but as an established wc who rarely does facias these days and lets face it, not all 1st cleans are that dirty, plus an additional £25 a week plus initial outlay to recoup....   Squeaky says it will pay for itself over winter yet there seems to be an increasing number of hot water users on here who wont go out when its freezing!!! why is that? Genuine question again, are they scared of breaking a window given temperature extremes of water against freezing glass? Seems bizarre that they don't when this is a perfect opportunity to work when us cold water boys cant. Im definitely not  knocking hot water users and at this price for the heater itself then it certainly starts to warrant a further look, but im still yet to see a convincing argument for it.

Also, whilst i have a lot of time for Squeaky, telling viewers he gets a commission on sales for it through his link sort of nullifies his impartiality.

My opinion is it’d be nice having hot water, but it won’t make you any more money, it’ll only reduce your profit. The cost to buy it and then run it is going to cost more than any benefits.

There is no way it’s going to make you more money as you’re still cleaning the same amount of windows each day.

Anyway, I can’t be bothered to watch the whole video, does it recirculate through the tank? Does it have a frost stat to stop water freezing overnight?

[Jonny 87]

Hot water definitely allows me to work faster, and makes my day much more enjoyable. 

Supple hoses, less tangles, birds mess and green facias are a doddle to clean.

I agree it can be a decent amount of outlay, but I’d happily purchase another heater when I have to replace mine.

My grippatank heater is currently 6 years old and still going strong.

[dazmond]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

Genuine question... how hot does it need to get then?

I still struggle with being convinced hot water is faster on routine maintenance cleans. Were all creatures of habit and work to our own default speed, it would be  hard to break that habit after all these years. 1st cleans and facias, yeah, i can get that but as an established wc who rarely does facias these days and lets face it, not all 1st cleans are that dirty, plus an additional £25 a week plus initial outlay to recoup....   Squeaky says it will pay for itself over winter yet there seems to be an increasing number of hot water users on here who wont go out when its freezing!!! why is that? Genuine question again, are they scared of breaking a window given temperature extremes of water against freezing glass? Seems bizarre that they don't when this is a perfect opportunity to work when us cold water boys cant. Im definitely not  knocking hot water users and at this price for the heater itself then it certainly starts to warrant a further look, but im still yet to see a convincing argument for it.

Also, whilst i have a lot of time for Squeaky, telling viewers he gets a commission on sales for it through his link sort of nullifies his impartiality.

Stick with cold water then.

Rather you than me though as I absolutely hate cleaning with cold water whether it's summer or winter.

This time of year the water is very hot so really helps with pollen spots,bee poo and of course bird droppings

I still clean f/s/g and conny roof jobs for some existing customers and it defo helps

In winter it's more about manageable,warm hose,better flow to the brush and warm hands. 

[Spruce]

Looks great & a much more realistic price.

I’d be interested to hear what others think, especially Spruce.

I got a bit bored watching this tbh. Sorry Dave, but you need to present this video in a more professional manner if you want to make a sales commission from each unit someone buys with your link/code.

A Thermo Top C 5.2kw heater could only warm my test bench heater from a cold water temperature of 8 degrees to 35 degrees. Those V jet nozzles are tiny, so the heater was definitely not heating a high water flow rate IMHO, hence the reason why he managed to keep the heat up. A brush with 2mm jets will change things a bit heat wise.

What he never touched on was what provision was made to stop the heater switching off and back on again (cycling) once the internal coolant temperature reached its maximum temperature.

The new 5kw diesel heater is the Thermo Top Evo which replaces the Thermo Top C. However, the Chinese are making a copy of the Thermo Top C and selling it as brand new.
The same factory is selling 9kw Webasto Thermo 90s and ST. Webasto have discontinued this model and replaced it with Thermo Pro 90.

For all I know, it could be the same factory making current Webasto diesel heaters sold under the Webasto name in Europe at Webasto high prices.

[Spruce]

Ever wondered where all these refurbished thermo tops are coming from? I have, especially as all the accessories and the unit itself looks brand new.
I asked a seller on eBay once and was told they come from narrow boats. 

[Pete Thompson]

Looks like he’s using the purple pole hose like me! Flexi-5 all the way!

[Tam1872]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

Genuine question... how hot does it need to get then?

I still struggle with being convinced hot water is faster on routine maintenance cleans. Were all creatures of habit and work to our own default speed, it would be  hard to break that habit after all these years. 1st cleans and facias, yeah, i can get that but as an established wc who rarely does facias these days and lets face it, not all 1st cleans are that dirty, plus an additional £25 a week plus initial outlay to recoup....   Squeaky says it will pay for itself over winter yet there seems to be an increasing number of hot water users on here who wont go out when its freezing!!! why is that? Genuine question again, are they scared of breaking a window given temperature extremes of water against freezing glass? Seems bizarre that they don't when this is a perfect opportunity to work when us cold water boys cant. Im definitely not  knocking hot water users and at this price for the heater itself then it certainly starts to warrant a further look, but im still yet to see a convincing argument for it.

Also, whilst i have a lot of time for Squeaky, telling viewers he gets a commission on sales for it through his link sort of nullifies his impartiality.

On monthly cleans it's not going to make you any quicker, as you do the same amount of strokes whether it's hot or cold water.

It's basically £1600 to keep your hands warm through the winter, and I'm not going to lie, having your hands warm in winter makes a massive difference to your working day and will make it less of an effort to go out when its cold, or even staying out when it's cold, so it will pay for itself when you factor in that side of it.

For £1600 I'd say it's worth it. Someone's said they have ordered one, I'm going to see what they think of it when it comes, and if everything seems okay with it.  Il buy one at that price.

[tlwcs]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

Genuine question... how hot does it need to get then?

I still struggle with being convinced hot water is faster on routine maintenance cleans. Were all creatures of habit and work to our own default speed, it would be  hard to break that habit after all these years. 1st cleans and facias, yeah, i can get that but as an established wc who rarely does facias these days and lets face it, not all 1st cleans are that dirty, plus an additional £25 a week plus initial outlay to recoup....   Squeaky says it will pay for itself over winter yet there seems to be an increasing number of hot water users on here who wont go out when its freezing!!! why is that? Genuine question again, are they scared of breaking a window given temperature extremes of water against freezing glass? Seems bizarre that they don't when this is a perfect opportunity to work when us cold water boys cant. Im definitely not  knocking hot water users and at this price for the heater itself then it certainly starts to warrant a further look, but im still yet to see a convincing argument for it.

Also, whilst i have a lot of time for Squeaky, telling viewers he gets a commission on sales for it through his link sort of nullifies his impartiality.

On monthly cleans it's not going to make you any quicker, as you do the same amount of strokes whether it's hot or cold water.

It's basically £1600 to keep your hands warm through the winter, and I'm not going to lie, having your hands warm in winter makes a massive difference to your working day and will make it less of an effort to go out when its cold, or even staying out when it's cold, so it will pay for itself when you factor in that side of it.

For £1600 I'd say it's worth it. Someone's said they have ordered one, I'm going to see what they think of it when it comes, and if everything seems okay with it.  Il buy one at that price.

Hi Tam. I’ve ordered one, it’s in transit.
25 years in it’s all about comfort/convenience for me. Extreme poles, electric reel and hot water makes the day more bearable.
 I see this as a step up from the immersion element I use.
As long as it’s reliable, creates water hot to the touch, I will be well happy..

[Tam1872]

Only 5kw it won't get that hot.

Genuine question... how hot does it need to get then?

I still struggle with being convinced hot water is faster on routine maintenance cleans. Were all creatures of habit and work to our own default speed, it would be  hard to break that habit after all these years. 1st cleans and facias, yeah, i can get that but as an established wc who rarely does facias these days and lets face it, not all 1st cleans are that dirty, plus an additional £25 a week plus initial outlay to recoup....   Squeaky says it will pay for itself over winter yet there seems to be an increasing number of hot water users on here who wont go out when its freezing!!! why is that? Genuine question again, are they scared of breaking a window given temperature extremes of water against freezing glass? Seems bizarre that they don't when this is a perfect opportunity to work when us cold water boys cant. Im definitely not  knocking hot water users and at this price for the heater itself then it certainly starts to warrant a further look, but im still yet to see a convincing argument for it.

Also, whilst i have a lot of time for Squeaky, telling viewers he gets a commission on sales for it through his link sort of nullifies his impartiality.

On monthly cleans it's not going to make you any quicker, as you do the same amount of strokes whether it's hot or cold water.

It's basically £1600 to keep your hands warm through the winter, and I'm not going to lie, having your hands warm in winter makes a massive difference to your working day and will make it less of an effort to go out when its cold, or even staying out when it's cold, so it will pay for itself when you factor in that side of it.

For £1600 I'd say it's worth it. Someone's said they have ordered one, I'm going to see what they think of it when it comes, and if everything seems okay with it.  Il buy one at that price.

Hi Tam. I’ve ordered one, it’s in transit.
25 years in it’s all about comfort/convenience for me. Extreme poles, electric reel and hot water makes the day more bearable.
 I see this as a step up from the immersion element I use.
As long as it’s reliable, creates water hot to the touch, I will be well happy..

Do a review of it on here agter you have had it a few weeks and tell us what it's like.

[Spruce]

Here is another hot water diesel heater. It looks like an Eberspatcher/Webasto furnace, but not totally sure.

What ever, he has incorporated a simple back to tank bypass to stop cycling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=516qlsneZAk