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Soupy

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2025, 05:29:15 am »
I was wondering the result on the van's 3 year manufacturers warranty once we drill holes in the van's floor?
I was told the warranty is null and void once we modify the vehicle. It would be good to know the law and I will be clarifying it with my VW dealer before I buy. Any info most welcome.

Never had an issue.

Not had any large claims though.

How did you fix tanks in your electric vans Soups?

Bolted through the floor.
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Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2025, 08:19:47 am »
One of my customer's had a small bump and got the repair done by a small garage and paid for it. His mobility dealer told him his warranty is null and void because he never went through them. Sounds daft that they have to do the repairs but it must be wrote into the contract.

Many questions we need to query when buying our next van. Looks like many grey areas that will pop up in the future. I don't even think our insurers have the answers.

I was also told that if one leases a van then you can't modify it, it has to be handed back in same condition one received it. Don't know if this is true so will need to ask a few questions before buying.

I might end up with a van that is out of warranty so I can do what I like to it aslong as my insurers are happy to insure it.

Looks like we could be entering a minefield in the future just to turn a coin as a window cleaner.  🤔

AuRavelling79

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2025, 01:16:44 pm »
I was wondering the result on the van's 3 year manufacturers warranty once we drill holes in the van's floor?
I was told the warranty is null and void once we modify the vehicle. It would be good to know the law and I will be clarifying it with my VW dealer before I buy. Any info most welcome.

Never had an issue.

Not had any large claims though.

How did you fix tanks in your electric vans Soups?

Bolted through the floor.

Thanks.

So how did you avoid the battery pack?
It's a game of three halves!

Soupy

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2025, 01:47:58 pm »
I was wondering the result on the van's 3 year manufacturers warranty once we drill holes in the van's floor?
I was told the warranty is null and void once we modify the vehicle. It would be good to know the law and I will be clarifying it with my VW dealer before I buy. Any info most welcome.

Never had an issue.

Not had any large claims though.

How did you fix tanks in your electric vans Soups?

Bolted through the floor.

Thanks.

So how did you avoid the battery pack?

Wide, long, flat tank.
#FreeTheBrightonOne
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KS Cleaning

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #64 on: April 14, 2025, 03:39:49 pm »
One of my customer's had a small bump and got the repair done by a small garage and paid for it. His mobility dealer told him his warranty is null and void because he never went through them. Sounds daft that they have to do the repairs but it must be wrote into the contract.

Many questions we need to query when buying our next van. Looks like many grey areas that will pop up in the future. I don't even think our insurers have the answers.

I was also told that if one leases a van then you can't modify it, it has to be handed back in same condition one received it. Don't know if this is true so will need to ask a few questions before buying.

I might end up with a van that is out of warranty so I can do what I like to it aslong as my insurers are happy to insure it.

Looks like we could be entering a minefield in the future just to turn a coin as a window cleaner.  🤔
Sounds like you don’t know if you’re leasing or buying?

Don Kee

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2025, 08:01:16 am »
One of my customer's had a small bump and got the repair done by a small garage and paid for it. His mobility dealer told him his warranty is null and void because he never went through them. Sounds daft that they have to do the repairs but it must be wrote into the contract.


Franky on this forum has a disabled son and therefore a mobility vehicle.

All repairs (like literally ALL) get fixed by mobility, no cost.
So A, if this is true then your customer needs to actually find out what they’re entitled to and B, it has nothing to do with manufacturers warranty.

Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #66 on: April 15, 2025, 08:29:23 am »
One of my customer's had a small bump and got the repair done by a small garage and paid for it. His mobility dealer told him his warranty is null and void because he never went through them. Sounds daft that they have to do the repairs but it must be wrote into the contract.


Franky on this forum has a disabled son and therefore a mobility vehicle.

All repairs (like literally ALL) get fixed by mobility, no cost.
So A, if this is true then your customer needs to actually find out what they’re entitled to and B, it has nothing to do with manufacturers warranty.

That's what I am saying he paid for it to get repaired by another garage. He should have got the mobility garage to repair it as you say but maybe the cost was higher thus he invalidated the warranty. We need to play by the rules or it comes back to haunt us.

Maybe Perfect Windows can verify if he still has the remainder of the manufacturers warranty?

Going to VW garage tomorrow to pick up some bolts I want to replace on my new hub. I will hopefully sit down with sales person and ask a few questions. Hopefully I can get to the bottom of the warranty situation.

DJW

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #67 on: April 15, 2025, 12:35:14 pm »
Forget about the bolts. I think you have a screw loose!

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #68 on: April 15, 2025, 08:20:48 pm »
Wide, long, flat tank.

What kind of cage do you have around the tank? Manufactured to your spec or bought?

Vin

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2025, 08:57:04 am »
Interesting news...



Vin

DJW

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #70 on: April 16, 2025, 10:12:37 am »
Nervous breakdowns are probably up though.

Soupy

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #71 on: April 16, 2025, 10:34:23 am »
Wide, long, flat tank.

What kind of cage do you have around the tank? Manufactured to your spec or bought?

Vin

Our spec.
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Scottish Cleaning Service

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #72 on: April 16, 2025, 03:48:41 pm »
Back from VW garage in Glasgow and had a great chat with warranty person. He was saying a new van would be covered as long as it doesn't make a difference to manufactured parts. They sell to councils who fit 12v to 240v inverters so a split rely from the van's battery is okay as long as it doesn't malfunction the battery.

I told him about fitting a system in an EV van and removing the battery. He said they have only 2 EV mechanics and must undertake a job together on ever job in case one get's injured. So they would need to undertake the task of removing the EV battery and replacing it. If anyone else did it then the warranty is null and void and the same with the 8 year battery warranty because only the manufacturer would allow their EV technicians to remove an EV battery and replace it.

I fully expected this on EV's but wasn't sure on diesel vans. Had a look around a new VW Crafter and she was saying its still a dry belt but the new transporters have a transit floor plan and same wet belt engine made in Turkey. Because of the wet belt problems they hand out a 5 year warranty on the Transporters. Crafter still made in Germany and they have sorted the add blu problem they had about 5 years ago.
So it looks like a new Crafter I will be aiming for in the future.

Splash and dash

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #73 on: April 16, 2025, 04:18:04 pm »
Back from VW garage in Glasgow and had a great chat with warranty person. He was saying a new van would be covered as long as it doesn't make a difference to manufactured parts. They sell to councils who fit 12v to 240v inverters so a split rely from the van's battery is okay as long as it doesn't malfunction the battery.

I told him about fitting a system in an EV van and removing the battery. He said they have only 2 EV mechanics and must undertake a job together on ever job in case one get's injured. So they would need to undertake the task of removing the EV battery and replacing it. If anyone else did it then the warranty is null and void and the same with the 8 year battery warranty because only the manufacturer would allow their EV technicians to remove an EV battery and replace it.

I fully expected this on EV's but wasn't sure on diesel vans. Had a look around a new VW Crafter and she was saying its still a dry belt but the new transporters have a transit floor plan and same wet belt engine made in Turkey. Because of the wet belt problems they hand out a 5 year warranty on the Transporters. Crafter still made in Germany and they have sorted the add blu problem they had about 5 years ago.
So it looks like a new Crafter I will be aiming for in the future.



The VW crafter van and MAN TGE vans are only made in Poland ,the older model crafter like you have now was a collaboration with Mercedes and was built in Germany mainly but not the latest version

KS Cleaning

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #74 on: April 16, 2025, 07:01:55 pm »
Back from VW garage in Glasgow and had a great chat with warranty person. He was saying a new van would be covered as long as it doesn't make a difference to manufactured parts. They sell to councils who fit 12v to 240v inverters so a split rely from the van's battery is okay as long as it doesn't malfunction the battery.

I told him about fitting a system in an EV van and removing the battery. He said they have only 2 EV mechanics and must undertake a job together on ever job in case one get's injured. So they would need to undertake the task of removing the EV battery and replacing it. If anyone else did it then the warranty is null and void and the same with the 8 year battery warranty because only the manufacturer would allow their EV technicians to remove an EV battery and replace it.

I fully expected this on EV's but wasn't sure on diesel vans. Had a look around a new VW Crafter and she was saying its still a dry belt but the new transporters have a transit floor plan and same wet belt engine made in Turkey. Because of the wet belt problems they hand out a 5 year warranty on the Transporters. Crafter still made in Germany and they have sorted the add blu problem they had about 5 years ago.
So it looks like a new Crafter I will be aiming for in the future.



The VW crafter van and MAN TGE vans are only made in Poland ,the older model crafter like you have now was a collaboration with Mercedes and was built in Germany mainly but not the latest version
Didn’t  ‘she’ tell you this Scottish? Typical salesperson, missing out the info they want to miss out!

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2025, 07:22:54 am »
Latest update:

Three charges so far this month so we're doing pretty much a week per charge. I've finally stopped worrying about the range. When the battery reaches about 20%-30% pop it on charge overnight and it's at 80% or so in the morning. Each charge has been a remarkably consistent £3.10.

One issue. Van is boarded out to a very, very high spec with 3/4" ply everywhere. It's affected the payload enough that we can't go out with the full 600 litres (the weighbridge doesn't lie). So we're giving some thought as to whether to suffer tank anxiety or reduce the lining. Not run low enough in water yet to worry but it's an unexpected embuggerance.

Scared the boy the other day when I pulled into a gap in a line of 30mph traffic with a touch of vigour the other day. Great fun to drive.

Vin

AuRavelling79

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2025, 08:03:39 am »
Latest update:

Three charges so far this month so we're doing pretty much a week per charge. I've finally stopped worrying about the range. When the battery reaches about 20%-30% pop it on charge overnight and it's at 80% or so in the morning. Each charge has been a remarkably consistent £3.10.

One issue. Van is boarded out to a very, very high spec with 3/4" ply everywhere. It's affected the payload enough that we can't go out with the full 600 litres (the weighbridge doesn't lie). So we're giving some thought as to whether to suffer tank anxiety or reduce the lining. Not run low enough in water yet to worry but it's an unexpected embuggerance.

Scared the boy the other day when I pulled into a gap in a line of 30mph traffic with a touch of vigour the other day. Great fun to drive.

Vin

Thanks for the update Vin.

£3.10 per charge is great.

Maybe get yourself and any co-pilot on a diet. Lose a stone each and that's an extra 12 litres of water.

 ;D
It's a game of three halves!

zesty

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2025, 08:45:29 am »
Stop worrying about the payload and just fill the tank up, it’ll be fine!  ;D

Perfect Windows

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #78 on: April 25, 2025, 09:18:05 am »
Thanks for the update Vin.

£3.10 per charge is great.

Maybe get yourself and any co-pilot on a diet. Lose a stone each and that's an extra 12 litres of water.

 ;D

There's not a great deal of me to start with - I'll disappear.

Vin

Soupy

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Re: Going electric
« Reply #79 on: April 25, 2025, 10:08:40 am »
Latest update:

Three charges so far this month so we're doing pretty much a week per charge. I've finally stopped worrying about the range. When the battery reaches about 20%-30% pop it on charge overnight and it's at 80% or so in the morning. Each charge has been a remarkably consistent £3.10.

One issue. Van is boarded out to a very, very high spec with 3/4" ply everywhere. It's affected the payload enough that we can't go out with the full 600 litres (the weighbridge doesn't lie). So we're giving some thought as to whether to suffer tank anxiety or reduce the lining. Not run low enough in water yet to worry but it's an unexpected embuggerance.

Scared the boy the other day when I pulled into a gap in a line of 30mph traffic with a touch of vigour the other day. Great fun to drive.

Vin

Is that a 13a charger you're using? 50% charge overnight seems low otherwise?

We remove all unnecessary weight from all our vans, regardless of drivetrain.
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