[rice]

Hi all
As cutomers do`nt have a clue as to which protectant is the best they`ll always choose a familliar name
such as scotchguard.With TEFLON being as well known regarding pots and pans and the fact that they provide brochures, I`d like to hear some views on [1] is there any benefit to be had from this approach
and[2]is the product any good? Iwas looking at the protectant with the acid dye blockers.
What do you think.
regards     RICE.

[spickandspan]

Hi Rice I have used many,  but i would not recomend any I have used.

[Mark Stanley]

I personally believe that the name is not  important. I use Fluroseal. Only because I can get it locally. I just copy the leaflets and most of the time the say yes and thats what we all want.

[rice]

Thanks for that,
spoke with distributor and guess what,the word TEFLON cannot be used in europe except by some major paint manufacturer.They dont supply any brochures and the superior acid dye blocking version is`nt available in europe.Next time I`ll ask for the moon : : :

[John Kelly]

I don't understand why you say the word Teflon can not be used. In what context?
Craftex carpet protector has Dupont Teflon on the label.

[spickandspan]

Yes it does you are right there John and its also on there leaflets.

[rice]

All I can tell you is the distributor told me that 6 years ago dupont withdrew permission because the name teflon was being used by every tom,dick and harry and was damaging there product and image.

He also said that dupont were touchy on this point and would take legal recourse.
that`s it.
He`s sending a sample to try out,so I`ll have a number to contact them and I`ll let you know what the storey is.
regards  rice.

[rice]

sorry, should have said "not allowed to use the word teflon on it`s own"  e.g "we apply a teflon based protectant to your carpets" but i`ll ask again.
rice 

[slioch]

DuPont have legal rights to the constituent elements of the protector (not sure if it is intellectual property or something else) and I believe they sell these elements to other manufacturers or rebadge for other distributors.  Other manufacturers may change the mix or add/subtract from the mix (e.g. to make it Woolsafe Approved) but the end result is much the same whatever you get.  I'm pretty sure I am right in saying that Scotchguard by 3M is an exception to this.

As for acid dye blockers, I have used these a lot but there are problems.  I don't know of any that are safe for wool; they tend to make the carpet wetter (penetrating rather than coating the fibres); customers don't understand them, expecting beading on the pile but getting rapid penetration of the pile - they then get out the 1001 and strip the protection.  The product is good but needs understanding. For a belt and braces approach apply a regular protectant when dry if you are still around.

I now use Teflon and Teflon for Wool and get it from www.restoration-express.co.uk.  I also like Allure but it isn't Woolsafe Approved and as it is rtu it is pricey.