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Richard iSparkle

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KFC
« on: January 05, 2022, 09:52:44 am »
I;ve been hit with my local KFC not paying their bills.

turns out the person who signed us up no longer works there, and contacted us through her personal email

there is no contact info for the local restaurant

any suggestions where to chase it? they only owe £150 so not life changing... but
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Smudger

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Re: KFC
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2022, 11:03:25 am »
I recommend a bargain bucket - lovely!
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Smudger

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Re: KFC
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2022, 11:06:12 am »
What’s stopping you talked by to the manager?
Take in the invoice and letter + copy of emails and give them 7 days to pay

I think you will need to deal with that branch as kfc are franchise so head office may not be interested

Darran
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DJW

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Re: KFC
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2022, 12:57:11 pm »
Write to Colonel Sanders. He seems a nice chap.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: KFC
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2022, 03:23:59 pm »
What’s stopping you talked by to the manager?
Take in the invoice and letter + copy of emails and give them 7 days to pay

I think you will need to deal with that branch as kfc are franchise so head office may not be interested

Darran

the only issue is i'd need to go down and find them in the restaurant..

but yes i think that is the only realistic option.

or i suppose a signed for invoice by post
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Bungle

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Re: KFC
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2022, 05:14:11 pm »
Park your van in the drive through and leave it there. That'll teach em  ;D
We look at them, they look through them.

G Griffin

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Re: KFC
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2022, 06:20:28 pm »
Tell them you know the Colonel's secret recipe and the eleven herbs and spices used and you'll spill the beans if they don't pay up.
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G Griffin

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Re: KFC
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2022, 06:21:08 pm »
Park your van in the drive through and leave it there. That'll teach em  ;D
Park in the drive thru and fillet, you mean?
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AuRavelling79

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Re: KFC
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2022, 11:09:20 pm »
Park your van in the drive through and leave it there. That'll teach em  ;D
Park in the drive thru and fillet, you mean?
That'd be a zinger!
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Smudger

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Re: KFC
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2022, 11:38:17 pm »
Write to Colonel Sanders. He seems a nice chap.

he shot someone once - not that nice!
(could be over a window cleaning claim - but cant be sure  :-\)

Darran
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Ian101

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Re: KFC
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2022, 05:56:49 am »
check out the law regarding "apparent authority"

https://hjsolicitors.co.uk/article/contract-formation-authority/#section-3

Then we pivot to the issue of Apparent Authority, the excuse the debtor is trying to hide behind. Under the law of agency, an Agent (employee) is able to bind the Principal (company) in a contractual relationship with a third party (customer or vendor). Business could not function efficiently if purchasing people could not order supplies and if sales people could not quote prices and complete sales. While these employees may not be Agents of the company able to execute a contract to sell the entire company to someone, they typically do have the authority to bind the company to these daily transactions.

Under Apparent Authority, if it appears that the employee has authority then their actions bind the company. This appearance can be accomplished by providing the employee with company identifiable forms or stationery, a truck with a company logo, or just having them work from the company office. In all of these cases, it is reasonable for the other person to assume that this employee has authority to enter into the transaction being discussed and therefore the threshold of Apparent Authority has been met. Our client’s contract with the debtor is legally binding.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: KFC
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2022, 01:02:23 pm »
check out the law regarding "apparent authority"

https://hjsolicitors.co.uk/article/contract-formation-authority/#section-3

Then we pivot to the issue of Apparent Authority, the excuse the debtor is trying to hide behind. Under the law of agency, an Agent (employee) is able to bind the Principal (company) in a contractual relationship with a third party (customer or vendor). Business could not function efficiently if purchasing people could not order supplies and if sales people could not quote prices and complete sales. While these employees may not be Agents of the company able to execute a contract to sell the entire company to someone, they typically do have the authority to bind the company to these daily transactions.

Under Apparent Authority, if it appears that the employee has authority then their actions bind the company. This appearance can be accomplished by providing the employee with company identifiable forms or stationery, a truck with a company logo, or just having them work from the company office. In all of these cases, it is reasonable for the other person to assume that this employee has authority to enter into the transaction being discussed and therefore the threshold of Apparent Authority has been met. Our client’s contract with the debtor is legally binding.

thanks Ian.

thats great :D
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Splash & dash

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Re: KFC
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2022, 05:23:56 pm »
check out the law regarding "apparent authority"

https://hjsolicitors.co.uk/article/contract-formation-authority/#section-3

Then we pivot to the issue of Apparent Authority, the excuse the debtor is trying to hide behind. Under the law of agency, an Agent (employee) is able to bind the Principal (company) in a contractual relationship with a third party (customer or vendor). Business could not function efficiently if purchasing people could not order supplies and if sales people could not quote prices and complete sales. While these employees may not be Agents of the company able to execute a contract to sell the entire company to someone, they typically do have the authority to bind the company to these daily transactions.

Under Apparent Authority, if it appears that the employee has authority then their actions bind the company. This appearance can be accomplished by providing the employee with company identifiable forms or stationery, a truck with a company logo, or just having them work from the company office. In all of these cases, it is reasonable for the other person to assume that this employee has authority to enter into the transaction being discussed and therefore the threshold of Apparent Authority has been met. Our client’s contract with the debtor is legally binding.




This is all a bit complex but I think you will find that the manager has gone outside of there authority in the company so the company won’t be liable I had a similar situation about 20 years ago never did get paid but luckily it wasn’t a lot of money .

G Griffin

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Re: KFC
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2022, 05:28:42 pm »
check out the law regarding "apparent authority"

https://hjsolicitors.co.uk/article/contract-formation-authority/#section-3

Then we pivot to the issue of Apparent Authority, the excuse the debtor is trying to hide behind. Under the law of agency, an Agent (employee) is able to bind the Principal (company) in a contractual relationship with a third party (customer or vendor). Business could not function efficiently if purchasing people could not order supplies and if sales people could not quote prices and complete sales. While these employees may not be Agents of the company able to execute a contract to sell the entire company to someone, they typically do have the authority to bind the company to these daily transactions.

Under Apparent Authority, if it appears that the employee has authority then their actions bind the company. This appearance can be accomplished by providing the employee with company identifiable forms or stationery, a truck with a company logo, or just having them work from the company office. In all of these cases, it is reasonable for the other person to assume that this employee has authority to enter into the transaction being discussed and therefore the threshold of Apparent Authority has been met. Our client’s contract with the debtor is legally binding.




This is all a bit complex but I think you will find that the manager has gone outside of there authority in the company so the company won’t be liable I had a similar situation about 20 years ago never did get paid but luckily it wasn’t a lot of money .
Was it chicken feed?
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DJW

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Re: KFC
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2022, 05:35:09 pm »
He was winging it.

Richard iSparkle

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Re: KFC
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2022, 10:55:02 pm »
Manager got in touch today and will sort the payment .

All should be sorted now

Thanks for the advice
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