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david mark

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Pick up truck recommended
« on: September 18, 2020, 05:43:28 pm »
Looking to set up a system into a pick up truck for my wife she has citan van at moment 400 litre tank but not enough room for the kids so looking to install a 600 litre tank we have pure freedom electric reel
to go with setup .
 
Can anybody recomend a pick up twin cab .
Which can handle the wieght . Have around £16.000 budget

EandM

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2020, 05:55:53 pm »
£16k would get you anything you need.
A Supercab would be better for space than a double but might be an issue depending on how old the kids are.

I've used an old Ranger Supercab for nine years and it's been brilliant but my daughter is already 5'9" at 13 and cab space is becoming an issue.

david mark

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2020, 06:50:41 pm »
Thanks had a Ford Ranger in Florida  around 20 years ago
Will the Ranger handle 600 litre tank

TomCrowther

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2020, 06:51:00 pm »
Use the search bar. Quite a few posts re this over the last few years.

Stoots

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2020, 07:09:46 pm »
Well, the hilux or the amorak usually get the best reviews but you will get a newer ranger, navara or l200 for the money.

Take your choice really, what do you like the look of?

They will all handle 1000kg plus so no issues on weight.

My navara has a 500 tank fitted with plenty of room left, ive no doubt i could get 700l in there with a custom tank.

They carry the weight much better than vans, you wont even realise it has anything in the back.

EandM

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2020, 08:02:44 pm »
Thanks had a Ford Ranger in Florida  around 20 years ago
Will the Ranger handle 600 litre tank

Our Ranger is very different up until 2018.
99-12 they're Mazda B2500 / Mazda BT-50 with slightly different body and trim. Mostly indestructible.
12-20 they're from Ford Australia and a leap forward in refinement & efficiency but no longer indestructible.
From 2018 Ford USA now sells 'our' current Ranger.

Ched

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2020, 08:08:21 pm »
I do like the idea of a pickup but do any of them  have reasonable fuel economy?

EandM

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2020, 08:17:14 pm »
I do like the idea of a pickup but do any of them  have reasonable fuel economy?

Mine doesn't :) An old IDI from 2002 with 176k which manages about 25 mpg.

Newer trucks should be able to average over 30mpg with 40 possible on a run.

On all though, the aerodynamics are poor and they tend to be heavy.

My Ranger empty is 1,800 kg  - the current version is up around 2,100 kg - which also means they're now under the commercial speed limits

Soupy

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2020, 08:24:45 pm »
Isuzu DMAX. More Bang for your buck.

I have three.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

Stoots

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2020, 08:37:12 pm »
They are not great on mpg but they are not  that bad either, guess it depends how many miles you do. I only put 20/30 quid in mine for a weeks window cleaning but i mostly work within 5 miles of home.

My old van did 32mpg average, my truck does 26mpg during the week working fully loaded. Best ive had out of it was 37mpg totally empty for 60 miles down the m62.

EandM

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2020, 09:06:49 pm »
Isuzu DMAX. More Bang for your buck.

I have three.

I'm a big fan of the 2.5 Yukon extended cab.
It's what the Ranger Mk5 would have been in 2012 if the Ford version hadn't appeared.
They're incredibly similar in their dimensions - plus, they just seem to work.

EandM

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2020, 09:09:30 pm »
They are not great on mpg but they are not  that bad either, guess it depends how many miles you do. I only put 20/30 quid in mine for a weeks window cleaning but i mostly work within 5 miles of home.

My old van did 32mpg average, my truck does 26mpg during the week working fully loaded. Best ive had out of it was 37mpg totally empty for 60 miles down the m62.

That's really good.

My old Mk2 Ranger is too low geared for any decent mpg.

The record was driving it home from Reading where I bought it and it did nearly 28 mpg - empty and under ideal circumstances.

We have seen the new Ranger T6 bettering 40 mpg if driven carefully which is hugely impressive.
Government Urban MPG for the 2.2 manual Ranger is quoted at 39 - which is of course complete nonsense.

Stoots

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2020, 08:48:18 am »
They are not great on mpg but they are not  that bad either, guess it depends how many miles you do. I only put 20/30 quid in mine for a weeks window cleaning but i mostly work within 5 miles of home.

My old van did 32mpg average, my truck does 26mpg during the week working fully loaded. Best ive had out of it was 37mpg totally empty for 60 miles down the m62.

That's really good.

My old Mk2 Ranger is too low geared for any decent mpg.

The record was driving it home from Reading where I bought it and it did nearly 28 mpg - empty and under ideal circumstances.

We have seen the new Ranger T6 bettering 40 mpg if driven carefully which is hugely impressive.
Government Urban MPG for the 2.2 manual Ranger is quoted at 39 - which is of course complete nonsense.

Talking about gears, i briefly had a 2007 ranger last year.

I only found out a few days later going down the motorway they dont like 5th gear. Kept popping out, only when i then looked online did i find out it was a common issue.

It was a great truck, just too old and tatty for my liking for work.

EandM

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2020, 12:09:57 pm »
They are not great on mpg but they are not  that bad either, guess it depends how many miles you do. I only put 20/30 quid in mine for a weeks window cleaning but i mostly work within 5 miles of home.

My old van did 32mpg average, my truck does 26mpg during the week working fully loaded. Best ive had out of it was 37mpg totally empty for 60 miles down the m62.

That's really good.

My old Mk2 Ranger is too low geared for any decent mpg.

The record was driving it home from Reading where I bought it and it did nearly 28 mpg - empty and under ideal circumstances.

We have seen the new Ranger T6 bettering 40 mpg if driven carefully which is hugely impressive.
Government Urban MPG for the 2.2 manual Ranger is quoted at 39 - which is of course complete nonsense.

Talking about gears, i briefly had a 2007 ranger last year.

I only found out a few days later going down the motorway they dont like 5th gear. Kept popping out, only when i then looked online did i find out it was a common issue.

It was a great truck, just too old and tatty for my liking for work.

It's a weird problem.
It's only an issue on the MK3 (2006-2009) up until mid-2008 when Ford sorted it.
The other problem with the MK3 is that Ford upped the gearing of 1st & 2nd to somewhere ridiculous.
A lot of owners who were towing wrecked the clutches, DMF's and sometimes the gearboxes themselves.
Ford said it was the owners fault and there was nothing wrong with the truck.
But in 2008 they revised and lowered 1st and 2nd gear whist also fixing the issue with 5th and making the truck essentially bombproof again.
The usual fix is just to fit a MK4 gearbox (2009-2012) which solves all the issues - that Ford created in the firstplace.
It's interesting that the Mazda BT-50 version doesn't have the same issues - because Mazda wasn't stupid!

The older Rangers now have a massive cult following due to their dependability and are very difficult to find at the cheaper end of the market for sensible money. Newer versions are much cheaper, relatively.

david mark

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Re: Pick up truck recommended
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2020, 07:12:44 pm »
Thank you for the advice