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Mike Halliday

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Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« on: June 10, 2019, 06:01:31 am »
Had a spare couple of hours free yesterday so decided to build something iíve Had my mind on for a while,  a petrol vacuum system that I could use for gutter  cleaning or attaching to the FSC and vaccing as I powerwash, (I still need to buy a FSC  with a vacuum port but at well over a grand iím Looking for a second hand one)

Iíve got to say it worked out really well, the length of the vacuum hose is adjustable so I could leave the machine in the van and just move the dirt container (which is on frame with wheels so I can easily move it about)

It has about 4 times the power of the biggest 3 motor electric vacuum

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcJjAizanlg

Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Kev Martin

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2019, 06:54:20 am »
Had a spare couple of hours free yesterday so decided to build something iíve Had my mind on for a while,  a petrol vacuum system that I could use for gutter  cleaning or attaching to the FSC and vaccing as I powerwash, (I still need to buy a FSC  with a vacuum port but at well over a grand iím Looking for a second hand one)

Iíve got to say it worked out really well, the length of the vacuum hose is adjustable so I could leave the machine in the van and just move the dirt container (which is on frame with wheels so I can easily move it about)

It has about 4 times the power of the biggest 3 motor electric vacuum

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcJjAizanlg

Wow!  How did you measure that?  What were the actual results?  Do you have the figures? Which 3 Motor vacuum did you compare it against?
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Mike Halliday

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 07:46:36 am »
Kev I compared it to this machine which is my normal gutter vac and is   3.3kw  which is over the limit of a 13amp plug.

Iím guessing your other question are rhetorical as you probably know I donít have the instrument to measure the actual vacuum so have to go figures on the  manufactures  website of the PDB , & the power output of a 13hp engine compared to a domestic household supply. There probably  is a little leaway in the suggested power
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Smudger

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2019, 10:36:34 am »
interesting machine there mike but surely with all that hose your losing/wasting much of the suction ?

Darran
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Mike Halliday

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2019, 12:31:57 pm »
Thats the beauty of positive displacement blowers they are not like electric motors they keeps pulling, they will handle 300ft of hose with no real loss of suction, without a vac relief they will calapse the tank or stall the engine
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Smudger

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2019, 01:33:05 pm »
cool - look forward to seeing it in action

Darran
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Mike Halliday

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2019, 02:19:55 pm »
And on really long runs I can just wheel it around the job and put it next to the gutter poles with a couple 5ft section of suction hose it doesnít need such lengths of hose as shown in the video
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Kev Martin

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2019, 02:21:06 pm »
Kev I compared it to this machine which is my normal gutter vac and is   3.3kw  which is over the limit of a 13amp plug.

Iím guessing your other question are rhetorical as you probably know I donít have the instrument to measure the actual vacuum so have to go figures on the  manufactures  website of the PDB , & the power output of a 13hp engine compared to a domestic household supply. There probably  is a little leaway in the suggested power


Actually it was a genuine question because lately we have been doing a lot of work on vacuums and pre sep filters and ultimately the lift per CBM they produce.  We have been comparing both electric and propane.  When you said it was 4 times the power of the largest electric vacuum, you had me worried as the vac to me below is a large electric vacuum and by no means the biggest.  Now I realise you were only comparing it to your gutter vacuum ;D



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Mike Halliday

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2019, 04:04:33 pm »
  3 phase & engine driven :P ::)roll

we need to use a bit of common sense really,  obviously I didínt refer to 3 phase or bigger  as these are not used in domestic situations  if you have a bigger 240v vacuum than that the one I pictured I would be interested in seeing it
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Kev Martin

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2019, 11:56:12 am »
  3 phase & engine driven :P ::)roll

we need to use a bit of common sense really,  obviously I didínt refer to 3 phase or bigger  as these are not used in domestic situations  if you have a bigger 240v vacuum than that the one I pictured I would be interested in seeing it
No I was being much fairer and using common sense by comparing Propane Vs Electric!  You can only compare eggs with eggs a Petrol or Propane has to be compared against 3 Phase electric.  However we do have the following vacs which are brilliant if you only want 240 Volt


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rb4no

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Re: Petrol powered gutter/powerwashing vac
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2019, 03:41:57 pm »
Very cool setup / idea look forward to seeing it working again... i used to have a Nematic NT 3 motor adapted for water, i had a sump pump installed and hooked it up to my FSC , that worked quite well it would suck the 18inch mosmatic to the floor!! i had to fit different castors to allow the unit to be closer to the ground etc.  I sold it a while back,  now back doing pw wish I kept it as they are handy on uneven ground where water pools behind you .... I had also thought of making a self contained wash / filter loop system but couldn't justify time and money at the time....