[Kev Martin]

I think the issue here is that lots of people mainly do domestic work and use what they are happy with.  I have banged on for years about the  misuse of bleach and other chemicals but in general people still keep using what is cheap as opposed to charging the serious money  to purchase and use approved chemicals.

Where as People and companies who are used to doing commercial work, where they constantly ask for RAMS and MSDS tend to use approved chemicals.

Ultimately mixing chemicals of any sort is wrong, but it is just a matter of whether you do any damage or worse get caught doing damage that is the issue.  Personally I leave the mixing and concocting to the chemists.

[Smudger]

im not stating who's right and who's wrong - but wherever I go on a course theres always 'talk' about Darrans setup - usually its not very complimentary ( just what I hear)

I am a big Hypo user and we do use it on commercial work but we don't add anything to it as we provide MSDS sheets etc..
we have had a client ask for no chemicals ( not just hypo but absolutely no chemicals of any kind ) to be used and we adjust the cleaning/price to suit that request

should we use hypo and stick a load of detergent in it then have an accident I think I would be in deep do do

Darran

[Splash & dash]

im not stating who's right and who's wrong - but wherever I go on a course theres always 'talk' about Darrans setup - usually its not very complimentary ( just what I hear)

I am a big Hypo user and we do use it on commercial work but we don't add anything to it as we provide MSDS sheets etc..
we have had a client ask for no chemicals ( not just hypo but absolutely no chemicals of any kind ) to be used and we adjust the cleaning/price to suit that request

should we use hypo and stick a load of detergent in it then have an accident I think I would be in deep do do

Darran

We also do quite a lot of commercial jobs with hypo and addertives all with data sheets never had a problem yet and some of the companies we do work for have there own h& s officers that are very fussy , also do some local authority work again never had a problem,  we have evan had firms ask us to use certain brands of chemicals as they are approved and that’s what they specify so I don’t understand why a certain person on hear seams to know better than chemists and H&S officers

[chris scott]

"We also do quite a lot of commercial jobs with hypo and addertives all with data sheets never had a problem yet and some of the companies we do work for have there own h& s officers that are very fussy , also do some local authority work again never had a problem,  we have evan had firms ask us to use certain brands of chemicals as they are approved and that’s what they specify so I don’t understand why a certain person on hear seams to know better than chemists and H&S officers"


Must be OK then.

[Darran Smith PRSS]

im not stating who's right and who's wrong - but wherever I go on a course theres always 'talk' about Darrans setup - usually its not very complimentary ( just what I hear)

I am a big Hypo user and we do use it on commercial work but we don't add anything to it as we provide MSDS sheets etc..
we have had a client ask for no chemicals ( not just hypo but absolutely no chemicals of any kind ) to be used and we adjust the cleaning/price to suit that request

should we use hypo and stick a load of detergent in it then have an accident I think I would be in deep do do

Darran

We also do quite a lot of commercial jobs with hypo and addertives all with data sheets never had a problem yet and some of the companies we do work for have there own h& s officers that are very fussy , also do some local authority work again never had a problem,  we have evan had firms ask us to use certain brands of chemicals as they are approved and that’s what they specify so I don’t understand why a certain person on hear seams to know better than chemists and H&S officers

Water is a chemical - You are a chemical - how do you do chemical free cleaning? I won't let my customers dictate how I clean there property

[chris scott]

Water is a chemical - You are a chemical - how do you do chemical free cleaning?.....I dont know enlighten me.

[Darran Smith PRSS]

You CANT do Chemical FREE Cleaning

[Mike Halliday]

Anyone can be  pedantic  with words and say everything is a ‘chemical’, it’s like saying we are all made from pencils lead ( which is carbon one of the basic building block of living matter)

But let’s try and be sensible and say what we actually mean, nobody really  considers water to be a chemical,  so we can say  cleaning with just water  ( either hot, cold, high pressure, low pressure etc) is ‘chemical free’ cleaning