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Marc Stock

Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2018, 02:21:43 pm »
Im averaging 350 a day on the windows on my own when i am out working. My worst round still pulls in over 200 a day. Some of my rounds are peaking at 450 a day and my record is 510. Of course thats not my wage. My wage is much less than that.

Lee Pryor

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2018, 03:41:11 pm »
lol Daz!!!!

We train new guys that have never done the job before for 7 working days one to one then put them in their own van and £250 is the first days worksheet.  ::)roll
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

dazmond

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2018, 04:20:49 pm »
I don't trust no one when it comes to money,work, equipment,vans etc.....

Most employees will try and steal off you at the first opportunity esp once they realise just how much money they're making you...even if u don't give them worksheets with prices on...they WILL find out after a while...they'll start getting jealous and resentful........they'll not give a toss about your equipment or standard of work either....
price higher/work harder!

Lee Pryor

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2018, 04:40:10 pm »
hmmmm well it hasnt happend. they do see the prices, they see what they do for me every day. Nothing has ever been stolen or any of the other things you just mentioned.
The best way to predict the future is to create it.

John Mart

Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2018, 06:42:05 pm »
hmmmm well it hasnt happend. they do see the prices, they see what they do for me every day. Nothing has ever been stolen or any of the other things you just mentioned.
If you hired Daz’s alky mates it would have all happened.  ;D

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2018, 06:56:15 pm »
Im averaging 350 a day on the windows on my own when i am out working. My worst round still pulls in over 200 a day. Some of my rounds are peaking at 450 a day and my record is 510. Of course thats not my wage. My wage is much less than that.

Why is your wage much less than that? I can't think of any other business which can be run so cheaply than a sole trader wfp window cleaner!
Comfortably Numb!

paul alan

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2018, 07:28:54 pm »
average 350 a day without taking your normal day off through the week, that's a good turnover mark. Are you sure you haven't hit 60k yet?

paul alan

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2018, 07:40:12 pm »
Im averaging 350 a day on the windows on my own when i am out working. My worst round still pulls in over 200 a day. Some of my rounds are peaking at 450 a day and my record is 510. Of course thats not my wage. My wage is much less than that.

Why is your wage much less than that? I can't think of any other business which can be run so cheaply than a sole trader wfp window cleaner!


LTD company.

֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #88 on: August 11, 2018, 07:50:39 pm »
Im averaging 350 a day on the windows on my own when i am out working. My worst round still pulls in over 200 a day. Some of my rounds are peaking at 450 a day and my record is 510. Of course thats not my wage. My wage is much less than that.

Why is your wage much less than that? I can't think of any other business which can be run so cheaply than a sole trader wfp window cleaner!


LTD company.

If that's the case then it's just over complicated bollox!
Comfortably Numb!

paul alan

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #89 on: August 11, 2018, 07:54:24 pm »
Im averaging 350 a day on the windows on my own when i am out working. My worst round still pulls in over 200 a day. Some of my rounds are peaking at 450 a day and my record is 510. Of course thats not my wage. My wage is much less than that.

Why is your wage much less than that? I can't think of any other business which can be run so cheaply than a sole trader wfp window cleaner!


LTD company.

If that's the case then it's just over complicated bollox!

Depends what angle your viewing it from.

You seem to be one of the "go it alone" gang, I imagine your mortgage free and no kids/kids grown up not much to lose types? A decent amount of savings and everything is "ok" in your life, content would be a sum it word?


֍Winp®oClean֍

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #90 on: August 11, 2018, 08:10:53 pm »
Im averaging 350 a day on the windows on my own when i am out working. My worst round still pulls in over 200 a day. Some of my rounds are peaking at 450 a day and my record is 510. Of course thats not my wage. My wage is much less than that.

Why is your wage much less than that? I can't think of any other business which can be run so cheaply than a sole trader wfp window cleaner!


LTD company.

If that's the case then it's just over complicated bollox!

Depends what angle your viewing it from.

You seem to be one of the "go it alone" gang, I imagine your mortgage free and no kids/kids grown up not much to lose types? A decent amount of savings and everything is "ok" in your life, content would be a sum it word?

Completely wrong mate. I am a realist-
Not a dreamer,  posses  common sense and focusd on how much of my turnover "I" get to keep- nothing else!
Comfortably Numb!

paul alan

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #91 on: August 11, 2018, 08:49:11 pm »
I'm no trying to have a pop peavey.

Would you say I am not a realist then if I am trying to create something more "secure"?  Is employing or the like something that shouldn't be attempted, and is bound to fail no matter what anyone says or does?

Smudger

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #92 on: August 11, 2018, 09:26:17 pm »
I don't trust no one when it comes to money,work, equipment,vans etc.....

Most employees will try and steal off you at the first opportunity esp once they realise just how much money they're making you...even if u don't give them worksheets with prices on...they WILL find out after a while...they'll start getting jealous and resentful........they'll not give a toss about your equipment or standard of work either....

Well, that’s really sad Daz - considering the majority of adults are working for companies it’s a relationship where both benefit - not everyone wants the uncertainty of working for themselves - even in the repeat business world of window cleaning

Your view of people is quite sad, maybe it’s a reflection of your own attitude when working for others ?

But, like lee staff have been great, you get the odd wrinkle but that’s life same as you get with your customers

Darran
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Marc Stock

Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2018, 09:30:26 pm »
average 350 a day without taking your normal day off through the week, that's a good turnover mark. Are you sure you haven't hit 60k yet?

Its quite possible by march 2019 i could have broken through an actual turnover of 60k as i have had alot of extra add on jobs this year since getting my credit card reader. I dont count these extra jobs on my customer list; and the 60k target is 60k worth of regular window cleaning signed up on my exisitng booked rounds. Having said that its currently sitting at 54,670 of regular booked monthly; bi monthly; and quartely cleans.

I am still strictly speaking working 3 and two thirds of a day a week; and nornally my Wednesdays that i have off down at the engineering business i havent been taking and booking in add in jobs and new cleans and also on Fridays too. So mondays  and tuesdays average between 350 and 400 a day Wednesdays are whatever add in jobs i have or a day out on the bike instead  thursdays are around 400 a day and Fridays are quartely cleans every week and are the most profitable with some days exeeding 450 a day.

I also only count 4 weeks a month into the regular schedual. So i only work 4 week months and any extra 5 week months is either time off for canvassing: which is very round specific at the moment; or downtime.

And yes finally my wages. Both me and the missus are on PAYE each on 15k a year and that covers our living costs with the rest of rhe money either coming to me by dividend or directors loan account if we need any extra cash for stuff.




Stoots

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #94 on: August 11, 2018, 09:32:19 pm »
350 a day for 4 days is still almost 60k working a 10 month year!


Ltd is the way to go if you are thinking of expanding, it costs more on accountant fees but i think its great having the separation between wages and company money.

I know by looking at my company account thats all for wages, growth and business costs and what ever is in my personal (and wallet) is mine.



Marc Stock

Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2018, 09:38:55 pm »
350 a day for 4 days is still almost 60k working a 10 month year!

Yes but i won't know my actual turnover until the end of my financial year.  This 1st years quarter from April to june has been about 14k actual turnover so far and now i am sitting at nearly 20k turnover and we havent even finished our month yet for the 2nd quarter figures.


dazmond

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #96 on: August 12, 2018, 04:04:29 pm »
I don't trust no one when it comes to money,work, equipment,vans etc.....

Most employees will try and steal off you at the first opportunity esp once they realise just how much money they're making you...even if u don't give them worksheets with prices on...they WILL find out after a while...they'll start getting jealous and resentful........they'll not give a toss about your equipment or standard of work either....

Well, that’s really sad Daz - considering the majority of adults are working for companies it’s a relationship where both benefit - not everyone wants the uncertainty of working for themselves - even in the repeat business world of window cleaning

Your view of people is quite sad, maybe it’s a reflection of your own attitude when working for others ?

But, like lee staff have been great, you get the odd wrinkle but that’s life same as you get with your customers

Darran

Just my experience smudger that's all....nothing to to do with my attitude when I used to work for others....

I don't trust no one when it comes to money  (bar a few family members and my missus)....
price higher/work harder!

Walter Mitty

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #97 on: August 13, 2018, 09:26:41 am »
lol Daz!!!!

We train new guys that have never done the job before for 7 working days one to one then put them in their own van and £250 is the first days worksheet.  ::)roll

Hi Lee.  Is that £250 including the VAT or is that £250 + VAT?

Lee Pryor

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #98 on: August 13, 2018, 01:22:13 pm »
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The best way to predict the future is to create it.

Frankybadboy

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Re: critique my plan please
« Reply #99 on: August 13, 2018, 08:03:20 pm »
daz when was the last time you employed or was it just cash in hand to people that helped