[alank]

I'm currently using Gardiner extreme brush and fan jets and rinse on all of the time which I find works well but am interested in what brush jet combinations  others are using to rinse on mainly for monthly maintenance cleans .

[paul alan]

been trying this rinsing on lately with pencils and I gotta be honest its not the best way to get perfect results for me.

I have tried the 100 degree fans but didn't like them either, if nothing else they're just offensively loud for me.

I would like to be able to rinse on but I don't seem to be able to get perfect results with it, some windows are ok but some look dirty in the corners still. even when I really concentrate the flow into the corners there is still spotting.

I like to test these techniques out and did a nursing home this week and went back a day later to do the insides so I can check the results, was not happy at all. It amazes me that I didn't get a complaint, needless to say I went around the outsides again.

Do you go around and check your work after the windows have dried?

[alank]

Yes I've been checking and all monthly cleans that have been checked are fine obviously on first cleans or one offs I will ensure they have more scrub and rinse than a maintenance clean but all in all they are satisfactory when dry.

[M & C Window Cleaning]

Personally I've learned not to keep going back and checking my work, beyond what is reasonable anyway.
Even when I was trad cleaning I'd occasionally be asked to do insides and was amazed that what looked brilliant outside often looked less so inside and was surprised sometimes that customers never said anything.

I now ask my customers to tell me if they are dissatisfied, and that if they do I'll come back and re-clean them. I want them to be happy.  A form of guarantee if you like.
 
I seldom get called back and if I do I don't make a big issue of it, just try to work together with them to get it right. They usually appreciate the effort and if my customers are happy, then so am I.

Like you alan, I like the combo of xtreme brush and black fans

[nathankaye]

I have one  brush which is dual trimmed and i use a bissel spray bar that ive attached;
https://youtu.be/nDZFZrTCegk
Also. As u may know I have a 14inch dual trim with 6 pencil jets, which give a great flow
https://youtu.be/oLP6OUW__oU

[paul alan]

I have one  brush which is dual trimmed and i use a bissel spray bar that ive attached;
https://youtu.be/nDZFZrTCegk
Also. As u may know I have a 14inch dual trim with 6 pencil jets, which give a great flow
https://youtu.be/oLP6OUW__oU

how do you achieve that flow with the 6 jets?

I have a 14" brush with only 4 jets and the flow still isn't that good, when I put 6 jets in it the flow was really poor.

I run 100m of micro bore onto gardiner's thick yellow pole hose into 4x 2mm jets. I have bought some of them 1.4mm jets but the flow is very "splashy" when turned up.

[NWH]

I still say the perfect brush would have 3 jets I have jobs with Windows that are only as wide as the brush,when you go up and down unless you go over both sides of the frame the water doesn’t make contact with the middle part of the glass. It would also reduce the need for a lot of scubbing of really dirty windows with 3 jets wetting the window more initially.

[mufcglen]

I use the big 3mm jets from gardiners myself with a highish flow, I barely ever do a final rinse Unless they’re like a first clean or very dirty.
Don’t seem to use any more water than I would with tiny pencils and there’s less bouncing water off the glass with the thick flow.
I’d say I use more water when I connect the fans up too as they might be giving everything a coating but they don’t seem to allow the water to flow as much the 3mm pencil wave.
I was always a fan man until I started using 3mm jets!

[alank]

Yes same here m & c  I tend not to over inspect work I believe that if you try to perfect you technique  and use the best tools available it is a case of wash rinse repeat. However on new work or if I've made changes to method or equipment I will increase the inspections to suit.

[alank]

Yes I've always used fans for rinsing on I might try the 3mm pencils when ordering next brushes and see how they compare.

[nathankaye]

I have one  brush which is dual trimmed and i use a bissel spray bar that ive attached;
https://youtu.be/nDZFZrTCegk
Also. As u may know I have a 14inch dual trim with 6 pencil jets, which give a great flow
https://youtu.be/oLP6OUW__oU

how do you achieve that flow with the 6 jets?

I have a 14" brush with only 4 jets and the flow still isn't that good, when I put 6 jets in it the flow was really poor.

I run 100m of micro bore onto gardiner's thick yellow pole hose into 4x 2mm jets. I have bought some of them 1.4mm jets but the flow is very "splashy" when turned up.

Its a streamline 14inch brush and i use their quick fit jets which I think are 1mm's.  I use micro bore hose as well and 6mm gardiner all weather pole hose.
A standard sureflow pump from pure freedom and one of their digi controller which I have on 80

[Tony dunmall]

I countersink the red fan jets into extreme hybrid  central between the two holes already existing, I find it means no chance of scratching and also when brush get older it will always hold a good fan spray

I do find, maybe I’m  wrong or when corrected those that rinse  brush on glass seem to have been trad prior to wfp

I’ve rinsed on glass for way over 15 years now and always check results

I find I prefer controller at about 55-70 when by myself when two of us it’s at about 50-55

But each window is different with how higher flow as I have lot of older properties

It’s funny daughters been with me three years now and she saw someone cleaning recently with Pensil jets and rinsing off glass and she was, like what’s he doing she never new any difference or seen it cleaned that way
 

[alank]

Yes Tony I was trad aswel for about 10 years prior to wfp at first rinsed off then started rinsing on a few years ago tweaked my technique a bit and checked results never looked back really,much prefer rinsing on. My daughter also started for me about three years ago and she loves it and is doing really well a good asset to the business.

[paul alan]

I still say the perfect brush would have 3 jets I have jobs with Windows that are only as wide as the brush,when you go up and down unless you go over both sides of the frame the water doesn’t make contact with the middle part of the glass. It would also reduce the need for a lot of scubbing of really dirty windows with 3 jets wetting the window more initially.

3 jets!

like that idea mate, gonna go get me drill and add a jet in the middle of me brush.

[NWH]

With 2 jets if you scrub  up and down twice on each section you end up scrubbing 6-7 times if you’ve  3 jets with 12-14” brush you’ll be scrubbing each pane on a regular clean no more than 4 times. The reason I say this is because the center of the brush to start off with on the glass is not wet it’s just damp bristles,I’ve never known why they sell a brush with 2 jets I know fans will solve this issue but IMO they are way to messy for me.

[paul alan]

tinkered.

[lee_dewing]

3 jets!

like that idea mate, gonna go get me drill and add a jet in the middle of me brush.

Thought about this myself, perhaps I'm a bit silly but thought it would be tricky as on base of brush is socket.

Thought this would make it difficult to fix a jet dead centre of brush.😖

[paul alan]

3 jets!

like that idea mate, gonna go get me drill and add a jet in the middle of me brush.

Thought about this myself, perhaps I'm a bit silly but thought it would be tricky as on base of brush is socket.

Thought this would make it difficult to fix a jet dead centre of brush.😖

Yeah it was tricky, I just took the socket down a little and put the jet in on a slight angle so it should hit the window in the same spot as the others when close to the window.

One thing I realised when I went out to test it was that the fitting I used is a 6mm X but the pole hose is 8mm so will need to order a 6mm-8mm reducer before I can use it.

[NWH]

You could offset 1 fan jet off center so it meant you could still drill through the brush stock if need be,having a fan in the center you shouldn’t get a lot of overspray which I hate with fans.

[Tony dunmall]

Hi NWH, you good

With fans the overspray is only really eliminated by keeping them on or closer to the glass and staying away top of frame  once it’s cleaned other wise your just wasting water and time

One guys who works for me also works someone else who uses pensils  and poor fellow forgets,by tuesday he starts overspraying

It’s jsut lenghtens his day until he wakes up and thinks what his doing

I’ll try a third in week and see how it goes be interesting ivean old brushin shed