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Quote from: adam thompson on November 29, 2017, 12:29:24 pmQuote from: Walter Mitty on November 29, 2017, 09:18:21 amQuote from: adam thompson on November 29, 2017, 07:25:47 amQuote from: Walter Mitty on November 29, 2017, 03:17:46 amQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 10:40:38 pmQuote from: Shrek on November 28, 2017, 09:57:00 pmQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 09:52:57 pmWhat's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year? Because if every customer did this, it would be a cut in income of 8 and one third per cent (one twelfth).If something like this happens and the customer has very good history, I will probably let it go - unless it's for a reason that's likely to be repeated. I was once sent away in case I upset the new dog (it was a rescue job). That was likely to be a repeat send away due to the reason. In spite of the customer's good record, I dropped the job. Now if it had been (for example) "My neighbour is in hospital for a couple of weeks and I'm looking after their aggressive dog, but it will be gone soon, I would probably take that on the chin.But every customer doesn't do this, I also said if becomes a habit then get rid. But the odd customer skipping the odd clean doesn't do any harm. Like I said, it depends if the reason is likely to be part of an ongoing issue. Also, it does do harm. If the job is for, say, £20, that's £20 I won't earn that day if I'm up to date with my work. If I'm a bit behind, maybe it won't cost me money as I can bring another job forward (if there are any more in that area).I'm already hard pushed financially. It's easy to think of this as the person dipping into my wallet and taking £20.I think if it's a problem to you to miss the odd ten or 20 quid then you need more work. Likewise if you are on top of your work and up to date you probably my need more work. I would always factor if having slightly more work than you need due to these factors, I never seem to run out of work, if someone skips or whatever I just do the next job, someone might want a conny roof doing so if I've time I'll do it.Dont you get asked for gutters or conny etc? The way I see it is if 20 quid of work can't be done this week but I've been asked to do conny roof then I'm no worse off.i dont get it either adam.walter mitty has been cleaning windows longer than me(he started back in 1991) and he s always skint.
Quote from: Walter Mitty on November 29, 2017, 09:18:21 amQuote from: adam thompson on November 29, 2017, 07:25:47 amQuote from: Walter Mitty on November 29, 2017, 03:17:46 amQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 10:40:38 pmQuote from: Shrek on November 28, 2017, 09:57:00 pmQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 09:52:57 pmWhat's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year? Because if every customer did this, it would be a cut in income of 8 and one third per cent (one twelfth).If something like this happens and the customer has very good history, I will probably let it go - unless it's for a reason that's likely to be repeated. I was once sent away in case I upset the new dog (it was a rescue job). That was likely to be a repeat send away due to the reason. In spite of the customer's good record, I dropped the job. Now if it had been (for example) "My neighbour is in hospital for a couple of weeks and I'm looking after their aggressive dog, but it will be gone soon, I would probably take that on the chin.But every customer doesn't do this, I also said if becomes a habit then get rid. But the odd customer skipping the odd clean doesn't do any harm. Like I said, it depends if the reason is likely to be part of an ongoing issue. Also, it does do harm. If the job is for, say, £20, that's £20 I won't earn that day if I'm up to date with my work. If I'm a bit behind, maybe it won't cost me money as I can bring another job forward (if there are any more in that area).I'm already hard pushed financially. It's easy to think of this as the person dipping into my wallet and taking £20.I think if it's a problem to you to miss the odd ten or 20 quid then you need more work. Likewise if you are on top of your work and up to date you probably my need more work. I would always factor if having slightly more work than you need due to these factors, I never seem to run out of work, if someone skips or whatever I just do the next job, someone might want a conny roof doing so if I've time I'll do it.Dont you get asked for gutters or conny etc? The way I see it is if 20 quid of work can't be done this week but I've been asked to do conny roof then I'm no worse off.
Quote from: adam thompson on November 29, 2017, 07:25:47 amQuote from: Walter Mitty on November 29, 2017, 03:17:46 amQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 10:40:38 pmQuote from: Shrek on November 28, 2017, 09:57:00 pmQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 09:52:57 pmWhat's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year? Because if every customer did this, it would be a cut in income of 8 and one third per cent (one twelfth).If something like this happens and the customer has very good history, I will probably let it go - unless it's for a reason that's likely to be repeated. I was once sent away in case I upset the new dog (it was a rescue job). That was likely to be a repeat send away due to the reason. In spite of the customer's good record, I dropped the job. Now if it had been (for example) "My neighbour is in hospital for a couple of weeks and I'm looking after their aggressive dog, but it will be gone soon, I would probably take that on the chin.But every customer doesn't do this, I also said if becomes a habit then get rid. But the odd customer skipping the odd clean doesn't do any harm. Like I said, it depends if the reason is likely to be part of an ongoing issue. Also, it does do harm. If the job is for, say, £20, that's £20 I won't earn that day if I'm up to date with my work. If I'm a bit behind, maybe it won't cost me money as I can bring another job forward (if there are any more in that area).I'm already hard pushed financially. It's easy to think of this as the person dipping into my wallet and taking £20.
Quote from: Walter Mitty on November 29, 2017, 03:17:46 amQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 10:40:38 pmQuote from: Shrek on November 28, 2017, 09:57:00 pmQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 09:52:57 pmWhat's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year? Because if every customer did this, it would be a cut in income of 8 and one third per cent (one twelfth).If something like this happens and the customer has very good history, I will probably let it go - unless it's for a reason that's likely to be repeated. I was once sent away in case I upset the new dog (it was a rescue job). That was likely to be a repeat send away due to the reason. In spite of the customer's good record, I dropped the job. Now if it had been (for example) "My neighbour is in hospital for a couple of weeks and I'm looking after their aggressive dog, but it will be gone soon, I would probably take that on the chin.But every customer doesn't do this, I also said if becomes a habit then get rid. But the odd customer skipping the odd clean doesn't do any harm.
Quote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 10:40:38 pmQuote from: Shrek on November 28, 2017, 09:57:00 pmQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 09:52:57 pmWhat's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year? Because if every customer did this, it would be a cut in income of 8 and one third per cent (one twelfth).If something like this happens and the customer has very good history, I will probably let it go - unless it's for a reason that's likely to be repeated. I was once sent away in case I upset the new dog (it was a rescue job). That was likely to be a repeat send away due to the reason. In spite of the customer's good record, I dropped the job. Now if it had been (for example) "My neighbour is in hospital for a couple of weeks and I'm looking after their aggressive dog, but it will be gone soon, I would probably take that on the chin.
Quote from: Shrek on November 28, 2017, 09:57:00 pmQuote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 09:52:57 pmWhat's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year?
Quote from: adam thompson on November 28, 2017, 09:52:57 pmWhat's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year?
What's to be gained dumping a customer who you clean 11 times a year rather than 12. Will you miss the tenner over the year?
If you cannot stick to your gun on how you operate then its pointless being in business. I believe if you want to be treated like a business then you need to have T& C just like any other business. Its never stopped me in the 10 years I have been in this game. They respect you for it.Its the difference between you running your business or your customers running you. If you cannot put your foot down then it will show in your needy attitude and the customer will sence it and take advantage. if you very matter of fact about T&C they accept it.
Quote from: paul alan on November 28, 2017, 08:43:57 pmQuote from: Marc Stock on November 28, 2017, 08:39:28 pmI have a locked gate policy. I do not text the day before. On my bills is the next clean date. I will return on that date, that is a contract. It says on my bills 'please leave access on the due dates as we cannot guarantee to return on a later date'It also says all payments are due in full under all circumstances. Trust me they forget once, they dont do it a second time as full payment is required regardless. It works, and works very well.I haven't got the balls to do that!I don't mind it too much as the front only is usually 1/3 of the job but charge 2/3 of the price for this.like your style though!Who are his customers ? put it this way if a shiner turned up at your door looking paid for a job he hadn't done because you hadforgot to unlock the gate, would you pay him ?Worse still, imagine if this was somebody's pensioner mum who had forgot and then had to pay for a non clean, its not about having the balls its about keeping them from feeling the sharp end of a steel toecap boot. lol.
Quote from: Marc Stock on November 28, 2017, 08:39:28 pmI have a locked gate policy. I do not text the day before. On my bills is the next clean date. I will return on that date, that is a contract. It says on my bills 'please leave access on the due dates as we cannot guarantee to return on a later date'It also says all payments are due in full under all circumstances. Trust me they forget once, they dont do it a second time as full payment is required regardless. It works, and works very well.I haven't got the balls to do that!I don't mind it too much as the front only is usually 1/3 of the job but charge 2/3 of the price for this.like your style though!
I have a locked gate policy. I do not text the day before. On my bills is the next clean date. I will return on that date, that is a contract. It says on my bills 'please leave access on the due dates as we cannot guarantee to return on a later date'It also says all payments are due in full under all circumstances. Trust me they forget once, they dont do it a second time as full payment is required regardless. It works, and works very well.
What happens if you cannot do them on the next due date due to unforseen circumstances......do you text them then.......some on here are very inflexible surprised they still have rounds.