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8weekly

No need for filters
« on: July 31, 2017, 03:54:21 pm »
There's a guy about to start selling an additive on Facebook that can be added to tap water to prevent spotting:


Smudger

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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 04:28:18 pm »
err... OK.....
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Dave Anderson

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RPCCS

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2017, 04:45:21 pm »
Think I'll pass on that one.
Cheers Rich

Perfect Windows

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2017, 04:48:06 pm »
If his product is as good as his proof-reading I'm not too confident.

Vin

8weekly

Re: No need for filters
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2017, 05:59:27 pm »
There seem to be any number of people on Facebook who seem to want to mix chemicals and come up with some "MagiMax" mix or other.  Weird that people can fail as window cleaners and then think they can become Cussons.  ;D

NWH

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 06:53:44 pm »
I wonder if it kills your pump like certain other products you add to your water.

CleanClear

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2017, 08:05:14 pm »
There seem to be any number of people on Facebook who seem to want to mix chemicals and come up with some "MagiMax" mix or other.  Weird that people can fail as window cleaners and then think they can become Cussons.  ;D

 Ironically its only these type people who actually move us foreward. If everyone just accepted what is , then we'd never.... you get the picture.
 Wether this guy gets it off the ground is another matter but i strongly believe we will soon see an alternative to purifying water to achieve the same results. I think it was Dave Willis who (at least for me) first mentioned dishwasher tablets and how they leave clean glass. I think he was thinking on the right lines.............. of course there will be loads of people to poo poo the idea.  Just as Chamois leather users would never get their head around squirting water from a carbon pole probably.
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8weekly

Re: No need for filters
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2017, 08:20:14 pm »
There seem to be any number of people on Facebook who seem to want to mix chemicals and come up with some "MagiMax" mix or other.  Weird that people can fail as window cleaners and then think they can become Cussons.  ;D

 Ironically its only these type people who actually move us foreward. If everyone just accepted what is , then we'd never.... you get the picture.
 Wether this guy gets it off the ground is another matter but i strongly believe we will soon see an alternative to purifying water to achieve the same results. I think it was Dave Willis who (at least for me) first mentioned dishwasher tablets and how they leave clean glass. I think he was thinking on the right lines.............. of course there will be loads of people to poo poo the idea.  Just as Chamois leather users would never get their head around squirting water from a carbon pole probably.
Fair point, but most of them are mixing existing products a la Magica one go.

Smudger

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2017, 08:26:46 pm »
There seem to be any number of people on Facebook who seem to want to mix chemicals and come up with some "MagiMax" mix or other.  Weird that people can fail as window cleaners and then think they can become Cussons.  ;D

 Ironically its only these type people who actually move us foreward. If everyone just accepted what is , then we'd never.... you get the picture.
 Wether this guy gets it off the ground is another matter but i strongly believe we will soon see an alternative to purifying water to achieve the same results. I think it was Dave Willis who (at least for me) first mentioned dishwasher tablets and how they leave clean glass. I think he was thinking on the right lines.............. of course there will be loads of people to poo poo the idea.  Just as Chamois leather users would never get their head around squirting water from a carbon pole probably.

while i agree to a degree - thinking of the likes of Alex ( gardeners ) Steve ( aquadaptor/univalve) these guys had proper products - you can see and feel them - but over the years there have been too man "chancers" who have taken a product - relabelled it then tried to sell it on for 4 or 5 times the price - a case in point is on the general cleaning board where the 'inventor' refuses to make available the MDMS sheets

if there is a chemical that reduces 350 ppm to under 10 and stops spotting then GREAT - but I'm too skeptical at this stage to think its nothing other a money making exercise for the people flogging it

Darran

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CleanClear

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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2017, 08:41:09 pm »
There seem to be any number of people on Facebook who seem to want to mix chemicals and come up with some "MagiMax" mix or other.  Weird that people can fail as window cleaners and then think they can become Cussons.  ;D

 Ironically its only these type people who actually move us foreward. If everyone just accepted what is , then we'd never.... you get the picture.
 Wether this guy gets it off the ground is another matter but i strongly believe we will soon see an alternative to purifying water to achieve the same results. I think it was Dave Willis who (at least for me) first mentioned dishwasher tablets and how they leave clean glass. I think he was thinking on the right lines.............. of course there will be loads of people to poo poo the idea.  Just as Chamois leather users would never get their head around squirting water from a carbon pole probably.

while i agree to a degree - thinking of the likes of Alex ( gardeners ) Steve ( aquadaptor/univalve) these guys had proper products - you can see and feel them - but over the years there have been too man "chancers" who have taken a product - relabelled it then tried to sell it on for 4 or 5 times the price - a case in point is on the general cleaning board where the 'inventor' refuses to make available the MDMS sheets

if there is a chemical that reduces 350 ppm to under 10 and stops spotting then GREAT - but I'm too skeptical at this stage to think its nothing other a money making exercise for the people flogging it

Darran

I wasn't thinking along the lines of " a chemical that reduces the ppm ", infact i think the guy said it won't. I don't know him , i've no idea who he is i'm just saying what i read......... but point is i said ..will produce the same results.. forget reducing ppm.
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CleanClear

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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2017, 08:44:06 pm »
while i agree to a degree - thinking of the likes of Alex ( gardeners ) Steve ( aquadaptor/univalve) these guys had proper products - you can see and feel them - but over the years there have been too man "chancers" who have taken a product - relabelled it then tried to sell it on for 4 or 5 times the price - a case in point is on the general cleaning board where the 'inventor' refuses to make available the MDMS sheets

Another case in point is almost everyman and his dog saying to use tap water to clean conny roofs and then brush off with pure. Others say..use UBIk, TFR, Magica one go etc... then wash off !!! And to think we where all sold on pure waters cleaning capabilities ?  ;D
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bobplum

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2017, 08:48:00 pm »
I believe his name is Simon Palmer...AIMS cleaning supplies

Smudger

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2017, 09:20:55 pm »
while i agree to a degree - thinking of the likes of Alex ( gardeners ) Steve ( aquadaptor/univalve) these guys had proper products - you can see and feel them - but over the years there have been too man "chancers" who have taken a product - relabelled it then tried to sell it on for 4 or 5 times the price - a case in point is on the general cleaning board where the 'inventor' refuses to make available the MDMS sheets

So true!
Another case in point is almost everyman and his dog saying to use tap water to clean conny roofs and then brush off with pure. Others say..use UBIk, TFR, Magica one go etc... then wash off !!! And to think we where all sold on pure waters cleaning capabilities ?  ;D
Never argue with an idiot, they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience

Dry Clean

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2017, 09:24:03 pm »
I suppose unlike all the other nonsense out there this product actually claims to do something that can be proved, it will either remove spotting from the glass or it wont.

8weekly

Re: No need for filters
« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2017, 09:27:05 pm »
I suppose unlike all the other nonsense out there this product actually claims to do something that can be proved, it will either remove spotting from the glass or it wont.
He's being a bit coy about it. I reckon it was a bs claim tbh.

P @ F

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2017, 10:07:37 pm »
RinseAid for dishwashers in a bottle !
I'm so lazy I'm getting tired of it !

CleanClear

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Re: No need for filters
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2017, 11:02:24 pm »
RinseAid for dishwashers in a bottle !
Pure water for window cleaners on a brush !
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