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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2017, 07:21:25 am »
How about one of these ?
http://www.omnipole-systems.com/wfpsystems/Endura400skidframe.html
Plenty of options to fit a battery /pump box and reel to .  ;)

hank jr

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2017, 07:24:04 pm »
How about one of these ?
http://www.omnipole-systems.com/wfpsystems/Endura400skidframe.html
Plenty of options to fit a battery /pump box and reel to .  ;)

Hey thats a cool idea  8) can take it out when not in use.  Then again....wouldn't a small IBC tank be the same thing?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IBC-water-Butt-Stillage-Small-600-Litre-Water-Container-500-Tank-Aqua-In-DURHAM-/112308409409?hash=item1a261a5441:g:JKgAAOSw32lYqVS8

Leroy Wright

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2017, 06:25:20 pm »
Hi Hank Jr,
                          have a look in the section of this forum about selling second hand gear. There you will see I have my 4 X 4 setup for sale. In the item description the measurements are there .http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=207633.0  If it fits your vehicle then  you are very welcome to buy . If not then at least you can look at the the pictures to get some ideas . Just measure between the wheel arches of your vehicle to see if there is enough room. If it works out you want the tank and the reels then I might be able to sell the Webasto heater separately. I hope the photos will give you some ideas and inspiration.
      About your customers possibly not liking the  the WFP method my tip would be to definitely take the time to explain to your customers what you will be doing. It will take time but you will only need to do it once. I have found that  when I explained  and even gave them a leaflet explaining the change over things went smoothly. I said that if the job wasn't up to scratch I would come back and redo the window immediately. They had nothing to loose it was me who would be loosing time and effort to redo the job. They were happy and because I took my time and did the job thoroughly they were fine about the changeover.  When I didn't do what I have written above then I ran into a few objections in one of my rounds where I didn't "prepare" the customers.
  Anyway please have a look at the used equipment section and see my hot water system for sale for some ideas for your new vehicle.

  All the best
Very good looking system Leroy.

Did Grippa fit it for you, curious as it is not one of their systems.


Hi dd,
               Grippa did fit it for me. I sourced all the bits and pieces including the the tank from EMPF . They did everything else. Obviously they supplied and fitted the Webasto heater.

Leroy Wright

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2017, 06:29:45 pm »
Hi Hank Jr,
                          have a look in the section of this forum about selling second hand gear. There you will see I have my 4 X 4 setup for sale. In the item description the measurements are there .http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=207633.0  If it fits your vehicle then  you are very welcome to buy . If not then at least you can look at the the pictures to get some ideas . Just measure between the wheel arches of your vehicle to see if there is enough room. If it works out you want the tank and the reels then I might be able to sell the Webasto heater separately. I hope the photos will give you some ideas and inspiration.
      About your customers possibly not liking the  the WFP method my tip would be to definitely take the time to explain to your customers what you will be doing. It will take time but you will only need to do it once. I have found that  when I explained  and even gave them a leaflet explaining the change over things went smoothly. I said that if the job wasn't up to scratch I would come back and redo the window immediately. They had nothing to loose it was me who would be loosing time and effort to redo the job. They were happy and because I took my time and did the job thoroughly they were fine about the changeover.  When I didn't do what I have written above then I ran into a few objections in one of my rounds where I didn't "prepare" the customers.
  Anyway please have a look at the used equipment section and see my hot water system for sale for some ideas for your new vehicle.

  All the best

Looks like a decent setup.....why are you selling?

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=207633.0
 I'm selling it because I am always trying new things and trying to improve my system. I always  think of new things to try and experiment with.  So every three years or so I have a change round. The system is running perfectly. Any questions please ask.

Best regards

philb

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2017, 06:39:53 pm »
Interesting discussion.

I am just looking into starting up and debating whether to use my current car (Rav4) or swap it for a pick up truck or least favourite option is to sell car and buy cheaper car & van. 

I will only be working 2-3 days a week and will need to use a vehicle including passenger seats the rest of the time. Not sure what peoples experience is with using the tank in the boot with seats down & taking out when not in use? Or pick up seems logical so it can stay in the separate compartment without effecting use of the vehicle to take passengers.

Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2017, 09:44:26 am »
Interesting discussion.

I am just looking into starting up and debating whether to use my current car (Rav4) or swap it for a pick up truck or least favourite option is to sell car and buy cheaper car & van. 

I will only be working 2-3 days a week and will need to use a vehicle including passenger seats the rest of the time. Not sure what peoples experience is with using the tank in the boot with seats down & taking out when not in use? Or pick up seems logical so it can stay in the separate compartment without effecting use of the vehicle to take passengers.
...and that's exactly why I chose a pick up. The cab and the truck bed are two completely separate bodies. Two vehicles in one  :)
Its a personal preference.....others will dissuade you. For me, two vehicles was never an option.

alank

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2017, 10:52:42 am »
I've used both a shogun and ford maverick with seats down tank strapped down to eye bolts and two hose reels fixed to top of tank have used escort van and a transit van. Now I use a double cab pick and have done since June last year for me the  pick up is the most suitable all round vehicle.

dazmond

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2017, 01:25:00 pm »
Interesting discussion.

I am just looking into starting up and debating whether to use my current car (Rav4) or swap it for a pick up truck or least favourite option is to sell car and buy cheaper car & van. 

I will only be working 2-3 days a week and will need to use a vehicle including passenger seats the rest of the time. Not sure what peoples experience is with using the tank in the boot with seats down & taking out when not in use? Or pick up seems logical so it can stay in the separate compartment without effecting use of the vehicle to take passengers.

if you can afford it having a separate van for work is much easier and less hassle plus all expenses in relation to the van are tax deductible if just used for work.

its a real pain using a work vehicle for leisure too.itll get wet and damp and dirty with WFP  and the faffing about taking equipment in and out,etc.

you want a sporty fast car for taking your girlfriend/mistress/wife out really instead of a van with half a ton of water in the back! ;) ;D
price higher/work harder!

Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2017, 01:58:54 pm »
Interesting discussion.

I am just looking into starting up and debating whether to use my current car (Rav4) or swap it for a pick up truck or least favourite option is to sell car and buy cheaper car & van. 

I will only be working 2-3 days a week and will need to use a vehicle including passenger seats the rest of the time. Not sure what peoples experience is with using the tank in the boot with seats down & taking out when not in use? Or pick up seems logical so it can stay in the separate compartment without effecting use of the vehicle to take passengers.

if you can afford it having a separate van for work is much easier and less hassle plus all expenses in relation to the van are tax deductible if just used for work.

its a real pain using a work vehicle for leisure too.itll get wet and damp and dirty with WFP  and the faffing about taking equipment in and out,etc.

you want a sporty fast car for taking your girlfriend/mistress/wife out really instead of a van with half a ton of water in the back! ;) ;D
That's  exactly the reason I gave above for using a pickup , with a pickup that is not an issue ...... quite simple to end the day with an empty water tank if you are taking passengers somewhere.  If / when I reach my mid life crisis and for some reason I wanted a sports car, I'd have one as well  ;)

Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2017, 02:04:24 pm »
How about one of these ?
http://www.omnipole-systems.com/wfpsystems/Endura400skidframe.html
Plenty of options to fit a battery /pump box and reel to .  ;)

Hey thats a cool idea  8) can take it out when not in use.  Then again....wouldn't a small IBC tank be the same thing?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IBC-water-Butt-Stillage-Small-600-Litre-Water-Container-500-Tank-Aqua-In-DURHAM-/112308409409?hash=item1a261a5441:g:JKgAAOSw32lYqVS8
I think you'd struggle to get even a 600 ibc in the back of a pickup due to its size.
If I was starting out again I'd probably go with one of these and mount a reel, battery, controller and pump to it - a bespoke system that could be transferred  from one vehicle to another simply and easy to maintain / repair  yourself. Built right it could be all you would ever need and outlast any van .

philb

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2017, 07:46:56 pm »
Interesting discussion.

I am just looking into starting up and debating whether to use my current car (Rav4) or swap it for a pick up truck or least favourite option is to sell car and buy cheaper car & van. 

I will only be working 2-3 days a week and will need to use a vehicle including passenger seats the rest of the time. Not sure what peoples experience is with using the tank in the boot with seats down & taking out when not in use? Or pick up seems logical so it can stay in the separate compartment without effecting use of the vehicle to take passengers.

if you can afford it having a separate van for work is much easier and less hassle plus all expenses in relation to the van are tax deductible if just used for work.

its a real pain using a work vehicle for leisure too.itll get wet and damp and dirty with WFP  and the faffing about taking equipment in and out,etc.

you want a sporty fast car for taking your girlfriend/mistress/wife out really instead of a van with half a ton of water in the back! ;) ;D
That's  exactly the reason I gave above for using a pickup , with a pickup that is not an issue ...... quite simple to end the day with an empty water tank if you are taking passengers somewhere.  If / when I reach my mid life crisis and for some reason I wanted a sports car, I'd have one as well  ;)

Yeah i see the advantages. I cant really afford a car and van so is pretty much a no go. My concern with a pick up is the cost to buy anything decent and the mpg of one.

alank

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Re: Buying a pickup truck - ideas for WFP setup?
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2017, 09:01:00 pm »
I was lucky when I bought mine two owners from new low miles etc but decent ones are not cheep mpg about 26 but most of my work is within 10 mile radius. I think a good looking motor helps bring in work whether van or pick up  is used is up to the individual  I just price new work higher to more than cover the additional running costs.