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Shrek

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2017, 07:43:06 pm »
This one on eBay is 67cm wide

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ecosure-1050-Litre-1000-Ltr-V1-Baffled-Window-Cleaning-Car-Valeting-Water-Tank-/291143183532?hash=item43c97c6cac%3Ag%3A3MoAAOxyHIlTbNH0&_trkparms=pageci%253Abc0c9d99-1708-11e7-971a-74dbd1802495%257Cparentrq%253A2ac4d38215b0aa411d6580baffff1223%257Ciid%253A1

£400 😱  that's a bit steep

Shop around, a lot of stuff is start up costs , you've only gotta buy it once.... and the rest is running costs  ;D
You can get a black one if going outside but then its more likely to freeze and cause further problems

hank jr

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2017, 07:43:31 pm »
Does the water tank HAVE to be in the shed? Can it be outside the shed?
doesn't necessary have to be in the shed but it would have to be covered else it would go green from the sunlight, also what would you do in winter when stuff freezes?

That did cross my mind ....I'm still learning bare with me ha ha

Shrek

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2017, 07:44:47 pm »
You've gotta have a bit of dosh to start up

hank jr

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2017, 08:00:09 pm »
You've gotta have a bit of dosh to start up

ive got a few quid but i also like a good deal :)

nathankaye

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2017, 09:11:59 pm »
As above, first determine your tds level of the water. Also if you do need to go down the route of a RO, yes you can store that in the garagr but it would be worth insulating  it come winter months. But its also advisable to look on ebay for a water pressure gauge as the water supply from flat to the garage may want a booster pump, which are easily sourced on ebay as well and relatively cheap.
Storing the ibc tank outside, yes you can. I have mine in the garden just outside my rear window up against my house. However i opted for a black ibc which will prevent water going green. Ive slanted some boards on top for a run off for the rain etc and boards at the side for a slight insulation again. Ive not experienced a bad winter (only done this method 1yr n half with ibc tank), but even then it would only be top inch at most freezing. If had no protection, which means your starting with really cold water on a really cold day, so could possibly freeze quicker in hoses etc.

But first sort out water tds and then decide which method? Trolley or van as in your other post. A long with how much water do you think you would need.
I sometimes use a trolley, but because i have a van system i dont worry about reserving water. So using a gardner backpack on a trolley, cleaning a full house (average 3bed house) could last 2.5 houses.
If a full house plus conservatory, then not quite that plus 3/4 of next house.
If upstairs only and reserving your water you could get 4 - 5 average size house cleaned per full. To give a slight idea.
Most would use 350ltr in a van system, but many and myself included have opted for 500ltrs which means you may not run out of water in a working day. But thats dependant on the payload of your vehicle.

So you can see theres alot to take into account. But we're  all here to help and can do so better once you decide on a course of action
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DeLuce

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2017, 09:32:49 pm »
p1w1 is  spot on I reckon. You need to answer his excellent set of questions so people who post can specifically answer your needs.  Otherwise you will be drowned in advice that may not be relevant to you.  :D

Cookie

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2017, 10:05:30 am »
I use a couple of 240L wheelie bins to store my water in and a Clarke submersible pump to pump the water from these into the van tank. Wheelie bins are more manoeuvrable than water butts, also I don't think you'll get the same algae problems as you would with an IBC tank (since they are not transparent). I actually store my bins outside but they would do equally well in a shed.

hank jr

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2017, 11:17:27 am »
I use a couple of 240L wheelie bins to store my water in and a Clarke submersible pump to pump the water from these into the van tank. Wheelie bins are more manoeuvrable than water butts, also I don't think you'll get the same algae problems as you would with an IBC tank (since they are not transparent). I actually store my bins outside but they would do equally well in a shed.

Do you know i actually thought of that but didn't want to say it ha ha.  Where can i get them? Did you buy yours off the council or something?


hank jr

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2017, 11:25:49 am »
I use a couple of 240L wheelie bins to store my water in and a Clarke submersible pump to pump the water from these into the van tank. Wheelie bins are more manoeuvrable than water butts, also I don't think you'll get the same algae problems as you would with an IBC tank (since they are not transparent). I actually store my bins outside but they would do equally well in a shed.

I can get FREE grey wheelie bin off the council - only 250L though.  Good call - Now thats a deal  ;)

dazmond

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2017, 11:38:59 am »
You can also have an RO system in the van and do away with an IBC in your shed altogether!so many options. ;D

Tds first then you can plan your next course of action.
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2017, 12:49:15 pm »
You can also have an RO system in the van and do away with an IBC in your shed altogether!so many options. ;D

Tds first then you can plan your next course of action.

For first several months this is what i did. My mrs didnt want an ibc in garden, thankfull later she did anf hence i went for a black ibc tank.
I did this vid ages ago to show;
https://youtu.be/PFlQZ86Og94

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Cookie

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2017, 08:01:05 pm »
I use a couple of 240L wheelie bins to store my water in and a Clarke submersible pump to pump the water from these into the van tank. Wheelie bins are more manoeuvrable than water butts, also I don't think you'll get the same algae problems as you would with an IBC tank (since they are not transparent). I actually store my bins outside but they would do equally well in a shed.
Do you know i actually thought of that but didn't want to say it ha ha.  Where can i get them? Did you buy yours off the council or something?
I bought mine from Bins Direct: https://binsdirect.com/

Cookie

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2017, 08:08:33 pm »
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1100l-Wheelie-Bin-/272584608433?hash=item3f774f0ab1:g:eewAAOSwTuJYwriI

I'm not sure the castors on this bin would support 1100 litres of water (that's 1.1 ton). I think your better off with a two-wheeled bin which sits on the ground where you tilt it to wheel it along. Such as this:

https://binsdirect.com/wheelie-bins/two-wheeled-bins/240-litre-grey-wheelie-bin-240ltgrey?returnurl=%2fwheelie-bins%2ftwo-wheeled-bins%2f%3fgridmode%3dtrue%23240ltgrey

You can get a 360L but that's more than double the price of 2 x 240L.



hank jr

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #34 on: April 04, 2017, 01:04:45 pm »
ok my TDS meter came today, and i tested my water. It reads 400 ppm. 

So guys what set up do i need ?

Thanks in advance

Dry Clean

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2017, 01:44:53 pm »
ok my TDS meter came today, and i tested my water. It reads 400 ppm. 

So guys what set up do i need ?

Thanks in advance

Your going to need a 4040 RO, a double 11ltr DI and a decent water pressure from your tap, as has already been mentioned
there's far too much conflicting info on this now so I would go to one of the reputable sellers and get a ready to go system thats
suitable to your needs, get them to throw in a bit of training on how to use and maintain it.


p1w1

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2017, 03:49:24 pm »
Next thing to do is test your water pressure. Water pressure gauge can be got off e-bay, screwfix, plumbing center etc about a tenner. If the water will be supplied from outside tap ( i take it it will be) take a reading while a tap is running in the house.  Something like this http://www.screwfix.com/p/monument-tools-mains-water-pressure-test-gauge/82412 just make sure its going to fit your outside tap.
After that you need to see what your flow rate is. Same as above do it with another tap running in the house, run for a minute then see how much water you have.

THEN you can start looking at R/O systems that will be suited to you (you will definitely need an R/O set up). 

hank jr

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2017, 04:43:44 pm »
Next thing to do is test your water pressure. Water pressure gauge can be got off e-bay, screwfix, plumbing center etc about a tenner. If the water will be supplied from outside tap ( i take it it will be) take a reading while a tap is running in the house.  Something like this http://www.screwfix.com/p/monument-tools-mains-water-pressure-test-gauge/82412 just make sure its going to fit your outside tap.
After that you need to see what your flow rate is. Same as above do it with another tap running in the house, run for a minute then see how much water you have.

ok thanks....will pick one up tomorrow from toolstation.  But i know my water pressure is p poor when there is another tap on in the house....
THEN you can start looking at R/O systems that will be suited to you (you will definitely need an R/O set up).

p1w1

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2017, 04:57:20 pm »
Best to see what it roughly is really. I find if you get these basic things done it helps in choosing what's best going to work for you and save money in the long run instead of just splashing out on a load of equipment then finding things could have been done better/cheaper. Ive probably wasted £1000s over the years ( and i bet others have) to end up with the system etc i have today.

johnny bravo

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Re: Advice on setting up a water system in my shed
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2017, 06:51:54 pm »
400 tds :'(