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Marc Stock

Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2017, 05:21:10 pm »
It's really funny. I had a chap approach me today asking for my details.

He couldn't get any window cleaners to even call him back. Either they are so busy they simply cannot do it, or they just can't be bothered.  And these were ones that were put through his door.




NWH

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2017, 05:34:27 pm »
You often here WCs say I'm getting loads of enquiries I've got so much work I haven't the time to do it all,I wonder if you sit down and see how much of the work is at the  price you think it should be. I find I get the most calls and stops in the street from now end of march through till the end of July,most of these people either want it done once or twice a year or want a one off.

Marc Stock

Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2017, 05:49:00 pm »
You often here WCs say I'm getting loads of enquiries I've got so much work I haven't the time to do it all,I wonder if you sit down and see how much of the work is at the  price you think it should be. I find I get the most calls and stops in the street from now end of march through till the end of July,most of these people either want it done once or twice a year or want a one off.

Yeah that's right.

NWH

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2017, 05:56:27 pm »
A recommendation is different they will already know your reliable and that you'll be wanting to do it on a regular basis,I don't know any established WCs that do one offs what's the point if you have regular good paying work,if I see sign writing on a WCs van that says one offs to me it says it all I'll clean anything or I could do with the work.

Dry Clean

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2017, 06:02:11 pm »
It's really funny. I had a chap approach me today asking for my details.

He couldn't get any window cleaners to even call him back. Either they are so busy they simply cannot do it, or they just can't be bothered.  And these were ones that were put through his door.

That's the type of story you usually get from a messer, in other words he now finding it hard to find a shiner that doesn't
know him.

Bungle

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #65 on: March 30, 2017, 06:29:53 pm »
For instance this house im just cleaning, the front has four windows and the back you can see.
Its in a little village thats been hit with pit closures and the like but this house is £15.
The snobby tight peoples houses are twice if not 3 times the size and are paying roughly the same if not less.
But explaining that logic to them doesnt work or the fact that some are paying less than what i charge a cleaning a dingy community hut in the same area for.
It drives me mad how some people charge silly silly prices.  Arrrrrhhhh

To make you fell better I charge  a  min of £65 for an end of tenancy one-off exterior window  clean, 65 min for a gutter check & clear, 65 for a fsg clean, 600 min for a render clean, 250 min for a driveway clean etc. That's the main reason why I chose not to have a large window  cleaning round. Not only that I would hate having to just clean glass all day long and have no spare time for anything else more profitable..

Do you get all the jobs you quote for smurf?

Currently works out about 90%.

You're too cheap then
We look at them, they look through them.

windowswashed

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #66 on: March 30, 2017, 10:05:52 pm »
Whatever price I charge in each street, every time I lose one and replace it I always charge them an extra quid, do it every time :) I look at it is a natural pay rise  :)

Smurf

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #67 on: March 30, 2017, 10:34:01 pm »
For instance this house im just cleaning, the front has four windows and the back you can see.
Its in a little village thats been hit with pit closures and the like but this house is £15.
The snobby tight peoples houses are twice if not 3 times the size and are paying roughly the same if not less.
But explaining that logic to them doesnt work or the fact that some are paying less than what i charge a cleaning a dingy community hut in the same area for.
It drives me mad how some people charge silly silly prices.  Arrrrrhhhh

To make you fell better I charge  a  min of £65 for an end of tenancy one-off exterior window  clean, 65 min for a gutter check & clear, 65 for a fsg clean, 600 min for a render clean, 250 min for a driveway clean etc. That's the main reason why I chose not to have a large window  cleaning round. Not only that I would hate having to just clean glass all day long and have no spare time for anything else more profitable..

Do you get all the jobs you quote for smurf?

Currently works out about 90%.

You're too cheap then

Could well be who knows. lol

dazmond

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2017, 08:19:36 am »
makes me laugh all this talk of "your too cheap". ;D

at the end of the day you can charge what you like its your business!no one elses!if you want to charge cheaper prices in certain areas to gain a monopoly in an area then so be it.i do this on my ultra compact work to stop other window cleaners gaining more work on them.2 estates i clean nearly every house(85+ on one and 70+ on the other).there is still 4 OTHER WINDOW CLEANERS CLEANING ON THERE.one has got a large house i used to clean (then new owners moved in and "imported" their last WC).the other 3 companies have picked up 3 or 4 houses each from either not liking wfp or ive dumped them for messing me about.

price higher/work harder!

NWH

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2017, 04:29:27 pm »
True you can charge what you like but when you say your doing them cheaper than other WCs or doing them cheaper so they don't muscle in you are doing them for less than you usually would do,like you say that's up to you it's your work although it's not something I would do. I do 4 houses in a road I clean them for 2 1/2 times the other WCs charge they still stick with me,they even say I wouldn't expect him to do a proper job for that price they know how much he charges he's canvassed them but they won't switch,price isn't everything you get what you pay for. 

slap bash

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2017, 05:11:40 pm »
You might think your customers are happy about price increase but your wrong this is to the ones that do it every year .a mate of mine keeps putting his prices up but one of his customers have told me that she isn't happy about it and the next increase he's down the road and it's not just her it's most of the customers in the same area


`Don't  focus your business to please the one moaner,  gear it the to please the 99.9% who will pay for a good job.
Focus on moaners and you will soon have a book full and a  pee`d off work life. If you want to help moaner give them a tenner each and see if this makes you feel any better.

NWH

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2017, 05:18:08 pm »
I put mine up every few years who puts there's up every year on here then.

dazmond

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #72 on: March 31, 2017, 05:58:14 pm »
True you can charge what you like but when you say your doing them cheaper than other WCs or doing them cheaper so they don't muscle in you are doing them for less than you usually would do,like you say that's up to you it's your work although it's not something I would do. I do 4 houses in a road I clean them for 2 1/2 times the other WCs charge they still stick with me,they even say I wouldn't expect him to do a proper job for that price they know how much he charges he's canvassed them but they won't switch,price isn't everything you get what you pay for.

what im saying mate is the very compact estate work is slightly cheaper than other work in other areas because i literally hardly move the van for 4 days on each.most of this work is 4 weekly and yes it keeps other window cleaners from gaining any other work on there.i pick up quite a lot of add ons on these estates too which is extra income in spring/summer. :)
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #73 on: March 31, 2017, 07:01:47 pm »
True you can charge what you like but when you say your doing them cheaper than other WCs or doing them cheaper so they don't muscle in you are doing them for less than you usually would do,like you say that's up to you it's your work although it's not something I would do. I do 4 houses in a road I clean them for 2 1/2 times the other WCs charge they still stick with me,they even say I wouldn't expect him to do a proper job for that price they know how much he charges he's canvassed them but they won't switch,price isn't everything you get what you pay for.

Exactly.  Im fortunate as two sections of my round i have the monopoly  yet unlike daz im the highest priced worker to what im aware off.  But im also the longest running cleaner there as well and they all know me quite well and i have a very good reputation. (Not blowing my own trumpet), so by offering a cheap price and thinking no one else can muscle in, doesnt always work
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dazmond

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2017, 07:08:18 pm »
True you can charge what you like but when you say your doing them cheaper than other WCs or doing them cheaper so they don't muscle in you are doing them for less than you usually would do,like you say that's up to you it's your work although it's not something I would do. I do 4 houses in a road I clean them for 2 1/2 times the other WCs charge they still stick with me,they even say I wouldn't expect him to do a proper job for that price they know how much he charges he's canvassed them but they won't switch,price isn't everything you get what you pay for.

Exactly.  Im fortunate as two sections of my round i have the monopoly  yet unlike daz im the highest priced worker to what im aware off.  But im also the longest running cleaner there as well and they all know me quite well and i have a very good reputation. (Not blowing my own trumpet), so by offering a cheap price and thinking no one else can muscle in, doesnt always work

i bet you re  still not turning over £40k+ a year like me though working virtually part time hours. :)
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #75 on: March 31, 2017, 07:16:32 pm »
True you can charge what you like but when you say your doing them cheaper than other WCs or doing them cheaper so they don't muscle in you are doing them for less than you usually would do,like you say that's up to you it's your work although it's not something I would do. I do 4 houses in a road I clean them for 2 1/2 times the other WCs charge they still stick with me,they even say I wouldn't expect him to do a proper job for that price they know how much he charges he's canvassed them but they won't switch,price isn't everything you get what you pay for.

Exactly.  Im fortunate as two sections of my round i have the monopoly  yet unlike daz im the highest priced worker to what im aware off.  But im also the longest running cleaner there as well and they all know me quite well and i have a very good reputation. (Not blowing my own trumpet), so by offering a cheap price and thinking no one else can muscle in, doesnt always work

i bet you re  still not turning over £40k+ a year like me though working virtually part time hours. :)

Kinda do work part time buddy and turnover is interesting, as its the net im more fussed about as in how low i can get my turnover from having to pay taxman my easy.....i mean hard earnt money 😉😉
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dazmond

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2017, 07:25:49 pm »
we all still work hard for our money though nathan.the actual window cleaning hours might be shorter than a lot of jobs but  then theres the unpaid stuff(admin,water production,chasing debts,sorting van out etc).no holiday/sick pay etc.

have a good weekend mate. :)
price higher/work harder!

nathankaye

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2017, 07:39:56 pm »
we all still work hard for our money though nathan.the actual window cleaning hours might be shorter than a lot of jobs but  then theres the unpaid stuff(admin,water production,chasing debts,sorting van out etc).no holiday/sick pay etc.

have a good weekend mate. :)

Yep, all the downsides of being self employed. Now thats the hard work of our jobs, especially paper/electronic work.

As much as i love how i work now, its taken a good many years to get to this point and plenty of hard work as well. I have well established rounds and built a healthy reputation and i consider myself lucky in doing so. For anyone starting off i appreciate it will or can be much much harder, but thats why i feel ones shouldnt let pride perhaps stop them from taking the advice on this thread and the forum (esp on pricing) on board. And not to take it too personnally. Ive adapted and said many a times that ive done so due to reading/contributing on this forum.

Ditto, have a good wknd to one n all.

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Shrek

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Re: rant: price n price increase
« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2017, 09:46:50 pm »
Word has it that the new pound coin is shaped so you can use a spanner to get it out of a Yorkshireman's hand.  ;D